Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Lost Power/power Back, Been Coded

[dgrimshaw]

I lost throttle response for about 30 seconds. Engine didn't stall. engine light came on and I got back my throttle as if nothing happened. Checking the codes , I received a 1693; 0121 and a 0237. I have a Bank's power pack installed and when I disconnect the box , the truck has no power. Limited throttle responce. Speed tops out at about 60mph. Box plugged back in , no problems. She has 37,000 miles on her and wondering if I brought it to dealer, would I have a problem because of the Bank's ? Thank's.









2001 6sp, HO, 4x4 quad cab. Bank's Power Pack.

 

[ToolManTimTaylor]

P0121 (M) Accelerator Position Sensor (APPS)

Signal Voltage Too Low

APPS voltage input below the minimum acceptable

voltage.





I seee the ottoMind may have an issue or the APPS (TPS) Has a loose connection





P0237 (M) Map Sensor Voltage Too Low MAP sensor voltage input below the minimum acceptable

voltage.



As well as the Map Sensor connection. Both Codes Point twards the Map Dissagreeance so go to it first.



And yes the dealer will bounce you! Did you pierce the pump wire?

 

[dgrimshaw]

Yep, done that ! In fact the original crip they gave with the set was giving me problems. I replaced it and made the wire covering opening a little bigger. Right now she will spike up and down in lower gears and at slower speeds. Not much room to tap into the pump.

 

[dgrimshaw]

Update. Called Bank's and advised them of problem. The tech said it was probably either the MAP sensor or the Ottomind box. I said what can an Map sensor cost , 30. 00 bucks ? I'll replace it and see what happens. Called the local Dodge dealer to get a price. 181. 00 !!!!!!!!!! I said what the heck man !!. (not really what I said) He said "well it's a diesel". I'd feel better if he had a gun to my head, or handing me a jar of Vasaline first.

I just sent the box to Bank's. Probably it. No more surging. Let you know what happened in a couple of weeks when I get the box back. Thanks for your help Toolman.

Dave Grimshaw

 

[ToolManTimTaylor]

DUDE!



Cummins Part# 3348750 Prolly 40 or 60 bucks. The IAT is 60. 00 so the same may apply.

 

[ToolManTimTaylor]

In Fact here are the service centers in your area



Plus I have an ottomind hangin' round too!















Contact Information

Dealer: CRUZAN'S TRUCK SERVICE, INC.

Channel of Distribution: Dealer

Address: 564 W. LEEDS AVENUE

City State, Zip : ABSECON NJ, 08021

Phone: (609) 645-3889







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Associated Distributor: CUMMINS POWER SYSTEMS, INC.

Parts Hours: MONDAY-FRIDAY : 08:00 AM - 04:30 PM

Service Hours: MONDAY-FRIDAY : 08:00 AM - 04:30 PM

Certified Applications: Automotive,

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Dealer: O'CONNOR TRUCK SALES NORTH

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Address: "H" STREET & HUNTING PARK AVE.

City State, Zip : PHILADELPHIA PA, 19124

Phone: (215) 744-8500

Fax Number: (215) 744-9871







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Associated Distributor: CUMMINS POWER SYSTEMS, INC.

Parts Hours: MONDAY-FRIDAY : 07:00 AM - 07:00 PM

Parts Hours: SATURDAY : 08:00 AM - 12:00 PM

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OEM Affiliations: FORD MOTOR COMPANY, STERLING TRUCK CORP. ,









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Dealer: MILLER FORD SALES

Channel of Distribution: Dealer

Address: ROUTE #38

City State, Zip : MT. HOLLY NJ, 08060-0549

Phone: (609) 267-0476

Fax Number: (609) 265-2916







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Associated Distributor: CUMMINS POWER SYSTEMS, INC.

Parts Hours: MONDAY-FRIDAY : 07:00 AM - 06:00 PM

Service Hours: MONDAY-FRIDAY : 07:00 AM - 06:00 PM

Certified Applications: Automotive,

Certified Engine Models: B3. 9/5. 9, C8. 3, ISB, ISC, ISL, L10 (MECH/ELECT), M11 (MECH/ELECT), N14 (MECH/ELECT),

OEM Affiliations: FORD MOTOR COMPANY, STERLING TRUCK CORP. ,









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Dealer: CUMMINS POWER SYSTEMS, INC.

Channel of Distribution: Distributor

Address: 2727 FORD ROAD

City State, Zip : BRISTOL PA, 19007-6895

Phone: (215) 785-6005

Fax Number: (215) 785-6151







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Distributor URL: CUMMINS POWER SYSTEMS, INC.

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Dealer: LIBERTY KENWORTH - HINO TRUCK SALES

Channel of Distribution: Dealer

Address: 75 W. 9TH STREET

City State, Zip : CHESTER PA, 19013-0738

Phone: (610) 872-2470

Fax Number: (610) 872-2489







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Associated Distributor: CUMMINS POWER SYSTEMS, INC.

Parts Hours: MONDAY-FRIDAY : 07:50 AM - 06:00 PM

Parts Hours: SATURDAY : 07:50 AM - 12:00 PM

Service Hours: MONDAY-FRIDAY : 07:50 AM - 06:00 PM

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Dealer: JERSEY BUS SALES

Channel of Distribution: Dealer

Address: 2015 ROUTE 206

City State, Zip : BORDENTOWN NJ, 08505

Phone: (609) 298-2987

Fax Number: (609) 324-9490









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Associated Distributor: CUMMINS POWER SYSTEMS, INC.

Parts Hours: MONDAY-FRIDAY : 08:00 AM - 05:00 PM

Service Hours: MONDAY-FRIDAY : 08:00 AM - 04:50 PM

Certified Applications: Automotive,

Certified Engine Models: B3. 9/5. 9, C8. 3, ISB,

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Address: 1231 WEST RIDGE AVENUE

City State, Zip : CONSHOHOCKEN PA, 19428-1089

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Address: 833 N. DELSEA DRIVE

City State, Zip : VINELAND NJ, 08360

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Parts Hours: MONDAY-FRIDAY : 07:30 AM - 06:00 PM

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Service Hours: MONDAY-FRIDAY : 07:30 AM - 06:00 PM

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Certified Applications: Automotive,

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Address: S. BROAD STREET AT PARK AVENUE

City State, Zip : LANSDALE PA, 19446

Phone: (215) 855-4641

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Certified Applications: Automotive,

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[dgrimshaw]

Thanks Toolman. Sent the box out to Banks because its still under warranty. They said they will check it and send me a new one if need be. Thanks again for all your help. It was much appreciated !