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This makes no sense to me (which doesn't really surprise me coming from DC). But I was changing the fluid in the rear end and I noticed it was LSD. I thought thats weird. So I looked at the front axle (it's all tore apart at the moment) and it's NOT LSD.



Why would you have one axle w/ LSD and one w/o?



Nathan
 
Yep, that's right, if you put the LSD up front it would cause some weird steering and some more steering effort. It is also easier to break stuff with a LSD/locker up front when off road or havin fun. Just another excuse to upgrade to better axels, u-joints, etc. I honestly dont' know of a manufacturer that offers a LSD front diff. But I know i'll be corrected on that one. James
 
Had one on the 99 frt D-60, Auburn. Makes for strange driving characteristics. Requires often front oil changes with fresh friction modifier.



Mac :cool:
 
ndurbin said:
This makes no sense to me (which doesn't really surprise me coming from DC). But I was changing the fluid in the rear end and I noticed it was LSD. I thought thats weird. So I looked at the front axle (it's all tore apart at the moment) and it's NOT LSD.



Why would you have one axle w/ LSD and one w/o?



Nathan



It's time for LSD for dummies time. Someone tell us dummies what LSD is so that we can make better sense of this thread. Grizzly
 
Grizzly said:
It's time for LSD for dummies time. Someone tell us dummies what LSD is so that we can make better sense of this thread. Grizzly



Limited Slip Differential, or you can also think of it as a limited traction differention, but the TLA (three letter acronmyn) wouldn't work then. :D



Paul
 
paulb said:
Limited Slip Differential, or you can also think of it as a limited traction differention, but the TLA (three letter acronmyn) wouldn't work then. :D



Paul





Thank you Paul. My 95 Dodge called it Sure Grip and my 05 I belive does call it Limited Slip. :rolleyes:
 
With the central axle disconnect disengaged and the front driveshaft not turning (as in 2HI), the passenger side of the differential (the disconnected side) spins the opposite direction of the driver's side (still connected to the front wheel). A limited slip would see this as a loss of traction situation and would continually drag in an attempt to keep both sides turning about the same speed (or in this case, the same direction). So unless the viehicle was in 4wd the majority of the time, the LSD clutches would wear very quickly.
 
When you refer to the passenger side axle are you saying the one from the shift collar to the hub (out) or from the shift collar to the differential (in)?
 
Shift collar to the differential. The shaft from the shift collar to the passenger side wheel stays connected to the hub.



So, the axle shaft on the outside of the collar is rotating with the passenger side wheel, while the shaft on the inside of the collar is rotating at the same speed, but in the opposite direction (providing the driveshaft isn't turning). This way you don't get the drag of the center chunk spinning plus the drag of the spinning driveshaft. But the spider gears in the diff are getting a workout spinning the shafts in opposite directions. Kinda makes you miss the ol' manual locking hubs, doesn't it?
 
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I honestly have never seen a factory installed LSD (limited Slip) in the front axle in recent vehicles. The only factory installed units close, would be the air lockers in the power wagon and rubicon, along with the CXT, and some other various vehicles. It was fairly common back in the 1-ton trucks (like in the late 60's and early 70's) to have a power lock (LSD) in front ends that were dana 70. other than that, very uncommon. It wouldnt work very well in the junk CAD design that our axles use. as was mentioned, the clutches probably would wear pre maturely. The driver side shaft is connected directly to the side gear. It has to turn. When one side gear turns, it turns the spiders and the other side gear. If the other side gear (which is where the other shaft is splined to) cannot freely rotate, or is rotating at the same speed, then the movement is transmitted to the cross shaft and then to the carrier/ring/pinion, which would then make the driveshaft spin. On our trucks, by disconnecting the passenger side axle from the pass side hub/wheel, and allowing the inner part of the shaft (from the CAD to the side gear) to rotate freeley, all the motion is then just sent to that shaft, and the carrier/ring/pinion/driveshaft stay stationary. Its a pretty poor design in my opinion.

Chrysler has called LSD's everything from Anti-spin, to sure grip. In the smaller dana units, they are usually a "track lock", made by spicer. Some of the larger danas (60 and larger) will have a power lock, which is a good unit and has a dual cross shaft design (like a GM 14-bolt, or a detroit locker) so it has 2 side gears and 4 spiders.

I personally dont like any diff with clutches. If it doesnt rachet, have a cable or switch, count me out.



--Jeff
 
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