Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Mad At The Mad Ecm

[Murle]

Ok, I'm starting to get pixx off. Got my ECM from Marco this morning. Installed. Did the fuel peddle cal. Cranked it up. Run rough idle 3 times and died. NO PEDDLE RESPONSE. DEAD PEDDLE. Redid the peddle cal. Same thing. Rev up 3 times and dies. Turned off the air. It will idle and not die... . NO PEDDLE RESPONSE. Also have no Accessory when the key is turned to accessory. What gives?????



I'm fixing to show these Italians how to Barbecue a donkey... Smoke some ASS.

 

[John - K5AWO]

What has happened sounds like you have a program that is not matched to your particular vehicle.



Give Doug a call and see what can be worked out. If you have followed the thread (which is where this post should be anyway), you should be aware of the most current discovery in that Marco must know exactly what software version your current ECM is.



California software will not work in a Federal truck and vice-versa.



Marco is on vacation for three weeks...



Inflammatory remarks are uncalled for. You knew going in that the ECM programming will have a few kinks until all the different truck softwares have been discovered. This is the leading edge of progressive bombing... . not the tail end of a proven manufacturing concept.



Cool thoughts are what is required... and a dose of patience.

 

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[Murle]

John - K5AWO...



This is the second ECM... ... Maro was give all that Info that you described. I think I have been patience. If you have followed the thead you would have read that I have been talking to Marco and Doug. About the problems with the first ecm. Not to speak of all the PM's. It is just this is getting old... and costly on all the returned ECM's. So don't go off half cocked until you have taken off your ecm as many times as I have... ...

 

[jponder]

I agree with MURLE, and John who in the ell or you to say WHERE he should put his post?????????



Anyone can start a thread about a product being good, bad, whatever and they dont have to put it in your Cattle thread that you subscribe to



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[rrausch]

Every manufacturer will have problems from time to time, but what separates the Great companies from the mediocre ones is what happens after a problem is reported by the customer.

 

[FFL8N]

If you have been following the thread, then you should know that you were taking a risk about modifing your ECM. Read "I am my own warranty station"! I am sure they will do there best to get things fixed for you, but don't be mad! They are working in new territory here. If you weren't ready to take the risk, you shouldn't have done it.

 

[Murle]

Now, Now, jponder, If he had looked before he got his shorts in a wad , John would have noticed I posted it also in the other thread he was talking about... . We have to give some allowance to those who know not what they talk about.

 

[Murle]

Originally posted by FF1607

If you have been following the thread, then you should know that you were taking a risk about modifing your ECM. Read "I am my own warranty station"! I am sure they will do there best to get things fixed for you, but don't be mad! They are working in new territory here. If you weren't ready to take the risk, you shouldn't have done it.

It is not the risk, I was and have taken the risk... . but I'm am going to post my feelings here and let the others decide for themselves if they want to take the risk. I know things will work out. In 3 or 4 weeks now. But before you start judging, take a few ecm's off yourself in this 100 degree Texas heat.

 

[blackbeast]

I feel your grief

Murle,



I understand your frustration with the ECM deal, and this is exactly why I hesitated in allowing it to come to market in the first place. I knew we would have some issues with this, but we (Marco, and I) thought that we had it tackled. We will work this out, but we need some time and some help from guys like yourself in getting these issues nailed down. Unfortunately, Marco is on hiatis for 3 weeks, and that doesn't help our cause. Also, is the fact that we have no fool proof way of testing these ECM's when we receive them to ensure that they are good units. I knew this coming in, and I will do my personal best to resolve all of the issues at hand as quickly as I can. If you would like to reconsider the MAD ECM, call me. I sleep good at night knowing that we go as far as possible to take care of our customers.



Thanks,



Doug & Dawn.

 

[jponder]

Leme see if I got dis right. Someone like Murle has probs and HE IS WRONG FOR SAYING IT????????



How much is this reprogram? Did he get this thing for free??????

Is he a Beta tester? if so I agree, he shouldnt say anything



OTOH if he payed 100 or 200 or 500 dollars then he damn well has a right to gripe.



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[Gary - K7GLD]

Shucks - all the auto makers do LOTS of product testing before their stuff is put out on the market - and surprises STILL pop up regularly!



This is pretty much to be expected - and is also why we appreciate those daring souls willing to step up and take the risks they do with new stuff. Others of us are less inclined or motivated to leap in, and can only spectate and speculate - maybe when the dust settles and stability occurs, we will take part too - but the less dedicated really NEED to be aware and informed of this stuff as it happens, and steps being taken to correct them - free flow of info - good AND bad, is a basic ingredient of what boards like this are all about - let's KEEP it this way!

 

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[Murle]

Now, guys... I never said I was pixx off. I said I was STARTING to get pixx off. Call Doug and see if I'm upset... I think he is more upset than I am. What really upsets me is someone trying to tell me when I should or should not get upset... .



I do not feel I have been flamed here. Just some people not knowing what is going on behind the scenes.



I have been in contact with the people a ADT. They have been nothing but the best service. In fact you can call them and they will tell you that I have not been upset at all. I just want to let people here to know what kind of problem there is out there on these ECM's. I have no doubt the problem is going to be solve.



In fact I feel lucky that I'm in on the ground floor on this. Because I'm sure the cost on the ecm's will most likley be going up to solve these problems. So you guys sitting on the fence had better get your orders in before the price goes up. I know my price will not be going up.



No I'm not getting it for free... . I have a lot of money invested in this. Could have bought over 500 gals. of fuel with what I have spent. But It is my money and my decision to send it my way.

 

[jponder]

Okay Steve, but in my opinion, telling someone to not post negative info AND telling theM info on this product should be posted in their "personal thread" is inflamatory. Talk about trying to CONTROL the discussion, its crazy. Either you want people to be able to discuss something or you dont.



I submit that those remarks ought to be edited by the moderator

 

[darkhorse]

I had a lot better luck than Murle on my second reflash. My MAD CaTCHER has very civilised mannors if I don't tickle the go pedal to hard. The power comes on very early & quickly. The delivery is smooth but fast all the way from idle to 3,200. I'm not finding it difficult at all to control the smoke but if for some reason one should want to lay down a smoke screen, that isn't to hard to do either. The only thing that does not seem to be working properly is the cruse control. Mine is an electronic type & it doesn't function at all, so I imagine there is still a glitch in my program some where. I can get along with out it as I've never used it much any way but it would be a good thing to find out why it isn't working.

 

[KatDiesel]

Originally posted by jponder

Okay Steve, but in my opinion, telling someone to not post negative info AND telling theM info on this product should be posted in their "personal thread" is inflamatory. Talk about trying to CONTROL the discussion, its crazy. Either you want people to be able to discuss something or you dont.



I submit that those remarks ought to be edited by the moderator

Maybe I missed it, but where did Steve say you can't say something negative about a product? Granted I didn't see what was edited out tho... ... ... ... ... ... ... .



I'm just passing time until Marco gets back from vacation and fixes my software :{

 

[Murle]

Darkhorse, glad you are having some luck. Findly got mine to idle by turing of the air condition. Turn it on and the engine would die. Start the engine with the air on and it would rev up from 500 rpm to 900 rpm 3 times then die.

 

[jponder]

Steve didnt say it another poster said it and it got me mad and well then steve edited me.



Every product is going to have some bumps, It sounds like a great product.



People were actually teeing off on Murle for posting his experiences, like he was attacking them personally, and I feel like they ought to got blasted back.

 

[KatDiesel]

Originally posted by jponder

Steve didnt say it another poster said it and it got me mad and well then steve edited me.



Every product is going to have some bumps, It sounds like a great product.



People were actually teeing off on Murle for posting his experiences, like he was attacking them personally, and I feel like they ought to got blasted back.

Ok nevermind then, just forget I said anything. New products are always emotional times for the users and the bystanders When I first saw his post it did come across as a bit harse, but I could see his side of the coin... ... ... ... ... . then he "cleared" it up with a followup post... ... .....