Manual trans filter from Genos

[CTDCAL]

I just received my filter kit for my NV4500 from genos, the kit replaces one of the PTO covers and looks fairly well made. I like the idea of this kit as it adds some capacity to the trans and provides a filter.



My question is this: with the instructions supplied with the kit it does not list the NV4500, NV5600 or the Getrag for installation. What this means is that I know it will fit but which side of the trans am I suppose to use and which way to mount it as the applications listed some are with the top up and the top down as well as a particular side of the trans. If anyone has mounted one of these on a NV4500 let me know. I will call Genos and ask if I don't get an answer here, but thought this may be quicker than waiting till Monday.



Thanks in advance,



CTDCAL

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

You want to mount it on the passenger side with the slot opening to the top. That flap sticking out catches the oil that is slung off of the top of the gears (the gears spin clockwise as seen from the rear of the truck).

 

[nickleinonen]

i believe it should go on the drivers side to get the oil thrown by the countershaft into it [it is the flat panel type that replaces the pro cover that uses gravity to flow oil through the media from the top down?]

 

[jrobinson2]

Geno's recomends mounting on the right side, it can also be mounted on the left side upside down.

Jared

 

[Scooby]

Originally posted by jrobinson2

Geno's recomends mounting on the right side, it can also be mounted on the left side upside down.

Jared

Jared,

Which is right and which is left? (Driver's side or passenger side?)

 

[jrobinson2]

On my truck the right side is north and the left side is south

Right and left are usually determined seated in the operators station facing the direction the machine travels in normal use, hopefully forward in the case of most light duty pickup trucks under normal operating conditions Under extreme operating conditions, such as a T-Rex suspension demonstration ride, this rule may not apply as the machine will spend a considerable amount of time perpendicular to the direction of travel on the "road" As a general rule of thumb the right side is the passenger side and the left side is the driver side at least in the northern hemisphere



nickleinonen

The Geno's Eaton Fuller trans filter is fully submerged with a round filter and relies on a scoop that fits fairly close to the PTO drive gear to force the oil through the filter. As long as the scoop on the filter is facing into the oil flow coming off the PTO drive gear it will work fine. I think the applications that show the filter on the left side with top facing up are dual countershaft transmissions where the left countershaft turns counter clockwise as viewed from the rear.

Eaton Fuller transmission filter

Jared

 

[WeirCummin]

One thing you'll want to to is pitch the gaskets that came with the kit. Use RTV fairly generally, don't over torque and warp:{ the filter housing.



Dean

 

[CTDCAL]

Thanks guys for all the responses, I looked deeper in the shipping box from Genos and just found the instructions for the dodge trucks - they sent along a printed sheet which pretty much follows what is said here; mount on right side with top up. Good tip on chucking the gaskets and using RTV, I think I will try that to avoid any leaks.



Thanks,



CTDCAL



CTDCAL

 

[JGheen]

Learned the hard way.

Originally posted by WeirCummin

One thing you'll want to to is pitch the gaskets that came with the kit. Use RTV fairly generally, don't over torque and warp:{ the filter housing.



Dean

Too late... . did just that and now wishing I just used no gasket and some RTV. I barely tightened the thing, too and the bolts just pulled the flange in and bent it! I am seriously ****** about this and hope it doesn't leak. Has anyone ever got their money back on this thing from Geno's? What about just trying to flatten the flange from the stupid mistake of using the gaskets? I always knew the best gasket is no gasket. Should have listened... ...

 

[jrobinson2]

Its just mild steel, hammer the flanges flat and use a little extra RTV and it will work fine

Jared

 

[FJfonda]

By all means don't return it, the 1st time you change the fluid and see what this filter stops... ... you're gonna be glad you kept it on. Just flatten it out and hit it with RTV.

 

[JGheen]

Yeah, after looking at it again, it didn't bend the flanges too bad. I am kind of worried that the filter didn't stay in it's operating position. Before I installed it, I put the two pieces together and noticed that the fitler was not sitting tight inside housing. I held the outer piece and the flat piece together and shook it a bit and the fitler would move around and out of position. I don't think it moved very much when I installed it, but have any of you pulled it back off and noticed it wasn't doing it's job because it fell out of it's filtering position? How fast is the oil supposed to move through the filter? Can it ever cause a flow restriction to the gears and syncros?



BTW, I replaced the oil with the Redline MT-90(75W-90, GL-4) and I noticed right away how much smoother the transmission shifts now. Not sure if I'll ever go back to the Syntorq after how much better the transmission feels now that I am running the Redline. Just thought I would let you guys know how the Redline brand of gear oil is performing for me.

 

[jrobinson2]

I installed mine without a gasket between the plate and the cover and it seemed to hold the filter element tight. It will not cause any flow problems if it becomes fully blocked.

Jared