Maxxis M8008 Trailer Tires

[LandShark]

Just finished a 3500 mile trip thru southern CA, AZ, NM and CO. About half the driving was in 100+ degrees. Was pulling my 5th wheel with less than 4 year old Maxxis 235 80r 16 tires. Weight on the ground for the trailer is under 9000 pounds (on 4 tires). I drive at 55 to 65mph. Tires looked to be in very good shape prior to the trip. Two of the tires had started to have cords pop thru the tread on the tire edge, and one was even showing some steel belt. All tires had more than 75% tread remaining with even wear. One of the bad tires lost it's air but was caught before it caused any damage, the other was discovered after arriving home.

Bottom line is I'm very disappointed with Maxxis. I've ordered a set of Michelin XPS RIB 245 75r 16 tires for the trailer. Couldn't go with the 235 85r 16's because they are about an inch taller, and I just don't have the room between the tires.

 

[KenHwy61]

Something I don' t want to hear! I just put a set of Maxxis on mine to replace a set of bulging towmax tires. Seems you just can't win with trailer tires these days.

 

[Slow Six]

You will like the XPS Rib. I had them on my previous trailer and they were an excellent tire. My XPS Ribs were a true Michelin as they were made in France. They are a little spendy but well worth the extra cost.

 

[Mingoglia]

This is disappointing to hear. As was said though, the Ribs reputation go without saying once you swallow the initial cost. Well worth the piece of mind.

 

[Hoefler]

Just finished a 3500 mile trip thru southern CA, AZ, NM and CO. About half the driving was in 100+ degrees. Was pulling my 5th wheel with less than 4 year old Maxxis 235 80r 16 tires. Weight on the ground for the trailer is under 9000 pounds (on 4 tires). I drive at 55 to 65mph. Tires looked to be in very good shape prior to the trip. Two of the tires had started to have cords pop thru the tread on the tire edge, and one was even showing some steel belt. All tires had more than 75% tread remaining with even wear. One of the bad tires lost it's air but was caught before it caused any damage, the other was discovered after arriving home.

Bottom line is I'm very disappointed with Maxxis. I've ordered a set of Michelin XPS RIB 245 75r 16 tires for the trailer. Couldn't go with the 235 85r 16's because they are about an inch taller, and I just don't have the room between the tires.

Sounds like an alignment issue, NOT a tire issue.

 

[RustyJC]

Sounds like an alignment issue, NOT a tire issue.

He said the tires were evenly worn. I would agree with you IF the tires were worn down to the belt on the inner or outer rib, but that doesn't appear to be the case.

Rusty

 

[SnoKing]

Something I don' t want to hear! I just put a set of Maxxis on mine to replace a set of bulging towmax tires. Seems you just can't win with trailer tires these days.

"Seems you just can't win with trailer tires these days"

Yes you can. For E rated tires on 5200 and 6000 axles:

Michelin XPS Ribs
or
Bridgestone Duravis R250s

For 7K axles and G rated tires:

Sailun S637 in two sizes LT235/85R16G and now LT235/80R16G(same diameter as most ST E's)
or
Goodyear G614s

ST tires are for trailer delivery and show! Replace before loading and using the product.

SNOKING

 

[TFucili]

Just say no to ST tires. They should be labeled STF, as in Sure To Fail.

 

[crispyboy]

Its been stated by ST tire manufacturers that after 3 years the tires loose up to 1/3 of the rated capacity.......

 

[KATOOM]

I have six Maxxis ST tires on my 5th wheel. They were the best of all the ST tire brands out there when I bought them a few years ago, and they have proven so far to be as good as I hoped. But that said, I also run a TPMS so I always keep tabs on their air pressure and temperature as I tow. Plus, I ALWAYS keep them at maximum air pressure (80 psi), and I have E rated tires which have a combined rating far more than the trailer weight, and I try to never let my trailer set longer than about 3-4 month without moving it and exercising the tires.

But more common than not people tend to either let their trailers sit seemingly forever without moving or using them (sometimes up to a year or more between uses) while the tires just sit there drying out from lack of use, and/or they run them too low of air pressure not paying attention or thinking that they're softening the trailers ride, and/or they run too light of a tire rating for cost reasons or dont know, and/or they grossly overload their trailer. Then they have tire problems and blame everything else but the potential real reason.

Thats not even accounting for other variables like out of alignment trailer axles, or dragging trailer brakes causing heat buildup, or not balancing their trailer tires because "its a trailer" as their trailer tires go bouncing down the roadways generating heat eventually having problems.

So in point, yes there are plenty of negative ST tire threads out there, but if you read all the way through there's generally a reason why besides the common talk about how bad ST tires are. Also to point out is that ST tires are not built the same as LT tires. ST tires dont have reserve capacities because they're not rated for carrying passengers, and are made for lateral support only. So yes, LT tires will outlast any ST tire simply because they're built to different standards. But thats not to say an ST tire isnt going to last if taken care of.

Just to mention too, I've had ST tires on a flat bed trailer last over 10 years. I use the trailer all the time too and I attribute the longevity of those tires to the fact that they were used often. And I have another trailer with the same tires which I bought at the same time. Yet that trailer sits all the time and guess what.....the tires didnt last. Want your trailer tires to last then DONT let your trailer sit unused.....

 

[AH64ID]

The Bridgestone Duravis R500HD is also another tire to consider. It's working out great for me and has a M+S rating for those that tow in inclement/cold weather or off the pavement.

 

[SnoKing]

I have six Maxxis ST tires on my 5th wheel. They were the best of all the ST tire brands out there when I bought them a few years ago, and they have proven so far to be as good as I hoped. But that said, I also run a TPMS so I always keep tabs on their air pressure and temperature as I tow. Plus, I ALWAYS keep them at maximum air pressure (80 psi), and I have E rated tires which have a combined rating far more than the trailer weight, and I try to never let my trailer set longer than about 3-4 month without moving it and exercising the tires.

But more common than not people tend to either let their trailers sit seemingly forever without moving or using them (sometimes up to a year or more between uses) while the tires just sit there drying out from lack of use, and/or they run them too low of air pressure not paying attention or thinking that they're softening the trailers ride, and/or they run too light of a tire rating for cost reasons or dont know, and/or they grossly overload their trailer. Then they have tire problems and blame everything else but the potential real reason.

Thats not even accounting for other variables like out of alignment trailer axles, or dragging trailer brakes causing heat buildup, or not balancing their trailer tires because "its a trailer" as their trailer tires go bouncing down the roadways generating heat eventually having problems.

So in point, yes there are plenty of negative ST tire threads out there, but if you read all the way through there's generally a reason why besides the common talk about how bad ST tires are. Also to point out is that ST tires are not built the same as LT tires. ST tires dont have reserve capacities because they're not rated for carrying passengers, and are made for lateral support only. So yes, LT tires will outlast any ST tire simply because they're built to different standards. But thats not to say an ST tire isnt going to last if taken care of.

Just to mention too, I've had ST tires on a flat bed trailer last over 10 years. I use the trailer all the time too and I attribute the longevity of those tires to the fact that they were used often. And I have another trailer with the same tires which I bought at the same time. Yet that trailer sits all the time and guess what.....the tires didnt last. Want your trailer tires to last then DONT let your trailer sit unused.....

Reserve capacity? ST use up any extra capacity with their inflated weight ratings. These inflated ratings were based on the 65 MPH speed restriction for years, now some manufacturers are upping the speed restriction. Just say not to these bottom feeder tires . Snoking

 

[KATOOM]

Exactly. The reserve capacity is built into the ST rating which is why a comparable LT tire will never have the same weight rating.

And yes, you're correct in that some manufactures are upping their speed ratings. Cant say whether they're just using the factor of increasing air pressure by 10 psi over max or are they also offering a different design which can handle the added load.

 

[SnoKing]

Exactly. The reserve capacity is built into the ST rating which is why a comparable LT tire will never have the same weight rating.

And yes, you're correct in that some manufactures are upping their speed ratings. Cant say whether they're just using the factor of increasing air pressure by 10 psi over max or are they also offering a different design which can handle the added load.

In the case of one manufacturer they are appealing to the bass boat audience! Pure marketing! Buy our cheap tires and you can tow to the speed limit. SNOKING

 

[Hoefler]

Just finished a 3500 mile trip thru southern CA, AZ, NM and CO. About half the driving was in 100+ degrees. Was pulling my 5th wheel with less than 4 year old Maxxis 235 80r 16 tires. Weight on the ground for the trailer is under 9000 pounds (on 4 tires). I drive at 55 to 65mph. Tires looked to be in very good shape prior to the trip. Two of the tires had started to have cords pop thru the tread on the tire edge, and one was even showing some steel belt. All tires had more than 75% tread remaining with even wear. One of the bad tires lost it's air but was caught before it caused any damage, the other was discovered after arriving home.

Bottom line is I'm very disappointed with Maxxis. I've ordered a set of Michelin XPS RIB 245 75r 16 tires for the trailer. Couldn't go with the 235 85r 16's because they are about an inch taller, and I just don't have the room between the tires.

I reiterate, He has a alignment issue.

 

[SnoKing]

I reiterate, He has a alignment issue.

All tires had more than 75% tread remaining with even wear.

 

[6speed]

I have had GY Marathons do exactly this (wires and such coming thru) and be even tire wear on others. When I bought my 46' GN it had 3ea 7K
axles with tires for only 6100 lbs per axle. I ended up putting the GY 614's on it. I did have problems with the OEM tires, but not since I did the 614.

 

[KATOOM]

Sounds like you're trying to say something..... :-laf

 

[6speed]

What I am saying is some tires will do this. I don't see it often, but it has happened. I am by no means a tire guy but some stuff is just unexplainable. We blame it on everything or everybody else. Nobody wants to admit they are doing it wrong or they assembled wrong. You know we all know what
were doing

 

[SnoKing]

What I am saying is some tires will do this. I don't see it often, but it has happened. I am by no means a tire guy but some stuff is just unexplainable. We blame it on everything or everybody else. Nobody wants to admit they are doing it wrong or they assembled wrong. You know we all know what
were doing

People do everything right with china bombs and they still fail. SNOKING