Michelin or BF Goodrich equal or not!

[Tony T.]

Some new trucks come with the Michelins an some with BF Goodrich tires. My 03 has the Michelins, an with 24K miles on the clock have been wearing good so far IMO. I eventually want to find some factory take-off alloy wheels and tires. My question is how are the BF Goodrich tires holding up compared to the Michelins, if I happen to come across a set.



Thanks



Tony

 

[whamby]

My stock BFG's got 51,000 before I replaced them. They were very slick on wet pavement after about 36,000 though. I now have the 315's and they get excellent traction but do not hold up well for me. Worn completely out at 30,000.

 

[CPittman]

I have 48,000 on my stock BFG Rugged Trail T/A's need to get them replaced soon. They look like an off-road tire, but they're really street tires. I think that's why guys that switch to the BFG All Terrain KO get poor mileage - those are "for real" off highway tires and are probably a softer compound; that and the fact that your second set of tires will probably never last as long as the stock set because the truck and all the suspension components were new with the first set.

 

[bpenrod]

My Rugged Trails have about 46k on them and at the last rotation they were at 7,7,7 and 8 32nds. Thye start out with 15/32nds I think so about half way gone tread wise. I was going to try and make it thru the winter on them but they are rather slick when it's wet or icy, maybe time for some Rickson's and the G-124's... ...

 

[demodogg]

I've got 75,000 on my original michelins. First truck I've had where the tires lasted this long. I can get another couple thousand or so out of them then, if I still have the truck, I'll get another set of michelins. I'm very impressed with them.

 

[jsimpson]

NOT! Goodrich tires have never given me good service in terms of puncture resistance, balance, or treadwear. Micellins have never disappointed me in forty years. Second best would be Coopers, but I would choose Coopers over Michellins simply because they are the last remaining American ownwd and manufactured tire.

 

[EEdmondson]

IMO, Michelins will give you better tread and fuel mileage, the BFG's are better in bad weather and off road. The BFG's are an extra cost option. Take your pick... do you drive in the snow or off road? I ordered the BFG's and I hope they don't last too long because I want to go to 285 or 295's for higher gearing.

 

[MCrossley]

my understanding from Americas tire is that BF Goodrich is a subdivision of Michellin; could be untrue but they do know their tire suplliers pretty well

 

[scottmcd]

BFG Tires is wholly owned by Michelin North America, has been for awhile now, same with Uniroyal. Cooper is still an American Company, although they have "offshore" manufacturing facilities.

 

[Buffalo]

Before I bought my '03, 4X4, I called the manager at the Discount Tire, where I always do business. I think very highly of Michelin products but, the BF Goodrich's looked like they might work a little better, off road. I posed that question to him and he told me that Michelin had an interest in BFG and that a lot of the tire technology from Michelin goes into the BFG's, also.

I'm inclined to believe him. These tires roll smoothly and are wearing, very well. I have 31,000 miles on them and they have a lot of wear left, on them (probably 1/2, or more). These tires are much better than i would have thought. I would buy them, again. Hope this helps. Joe F. (Buffalo)

 

[jsimpson]

I believe that's their Avon performance tire aquisition...

BFG Tires is wholly owned by Michelin North America, has been for awhile now, same with Uniroyal. Cooper is still an American Company, although they have "offshore" manufacturing facilities.

 

[ERohloff]

Michlen Vote Here

My son and I have gone thru 4 sets of Michlen LTX's on three Toyota 4x4's and a Tahoe. All have gone 75k + miles and never a balance or defect issue. Rotate every 10-15k helps.

The OEM tires, BFG's and Goodrich went half that... ... ...

 

[CTA]

Tony,

My truck came w/the BFG Rugged Trails, took them off at 28k (I'm anal about tires) and I plan to sell them to a friend who has 36k on his set and expects to take them through the Winter to about 40k - 45k. My guess is that the stock BFG would easily last for 35k - 40k "safely" but previous Members were correct, they are NOT Off-Road tires, just an aggressive "all-season" road tire.



I just changed them over before Hunting Season (I see a fair amount of mud in/out of camp) and bought new BFG All-Terrains, 285's. They are my "favorite" tire, had them on my last three trucks and usually get 30k - 35k "good" miles out of them. You can not find a "good" off-road tire that will last more then 35k miles ...



Michelins are an excellent "on-road", high mileage, virtually no-defect tire and yes, they own BFG. I also second "jsimpson" in his second choice for Cooper's, they are ... I believe the last American Made tire and I have had several sets of those, have two sets now on two other vehicles (snow tires)!



Oh, the BFG tires are NOT cheap so plan on a dent in the bank account and they are sold like Saturns, your best deal (which is still ridiculous) can't be beat by anyone as they have a bottom line price. You DO get what you pay for!

 

[MMiller]

I have run Michelins and love them for their on road wear, mileage, need little balancing in their life. They stand up better on gravel roads too. On my truck currently is BFG mud terrains simply because the Michelin is not aggressive enough for my needs, and the truck does not see that many miles anymore. I replace tires now because of some weather checking, and I tow heavy, so I want no problems. I only put about 10,000 miles a year on the truck.



I have been very happy with the BFG's, these are pretty aggressive and won't hold up as long on highway. But when push comes to shove off the beaten path, my truck usually is pulling out other vehicles.



All in all the michelins I have run have been well worth the upfront cost. The bfg's have never let me down either.



Michael

 

[Tony T.]

Tires

Thanks every body for the good info. I have run the BF Goodrich AT before in the past on previous truck with pretty good results. Like I said before the Michelins I have now are really wearing good, I rotate every 5K miles at oil change intervals. I seen a set of alloy wheels an BF's on ebay awhile back an was wondering about them.



I'll also keep in mind the Cooper's, hav'nt run them in several year's.



Tony

 

[PJ]

The BFG's on my old 04 SUCKED! Im not sure if it was the ball joint problem or the alignment problem but, the wear pattern was a joke. 13k and they needed to be replaced. When new, the BFG's would just spin in the slightest wet grass or sand on the road. Now, on my new truck, I have the Michlens and they are great! At almost 5k, they still look NEW and do great in all types of driving. IMOP, stay with the michlens! My wife has Toyos on her SUV. They suck! Ive been told I need to rotate them every 3k or they will be junk within 25k. STAY with the Michlens!

 

[NickSullivan]

Who knows as you can tell my post will be just the opposite of PJ's. Don't know what to tell ya PJ. I have had two sets of the Rugged trails, one set came on my TRD Tundra and I got 51,000 out of them with NO flats or any problems. I only have 2,700 miles on the set that came with my Dodge however. I replaced these today with some 35 inch BFG's just for the added size.



These are for sale if anyone would like a set. I'll sell them for $250

 

[jsimpson]

On the other hand, the Michellins on my Tundra have been trouble free for over 6000 miles, and the BFG's on my Dodge are badly cupped at 23000.

 

[Blakers]

My Rugged Trails are wearing very well and have over 40,000 miles now and will probably easily last another year. They are definitely a good city tire, but definitely a very marginal off road or snow tire.



I just put a set of BFG A/T 315s on with the Hummer H2 rims. This is the best deal going as I paid $800 for 4 tires on rims. Some have reported getting them for less, but the 315s alone are about $200 plus mounting.



The BFG A/Ts are wonderful in snow. Like a different truck all together.



I just wish Dodge would give us a choice when we buy a new truck - not just a city tire from Michilan or a mediocre all season tire from BFG.



It does bother me to buy from the French though.