2nd Gen Non-Engine/Transmission michelin XPS traction 235/85/16 ??

[johncameron]

Has anyone tried these tires? http://www.michelinman.ca/catalog/tires/MichelinXPSTraction.html?tiretype=6&tire=5



I was wondering how they drove compared to the LTX 265/75/16's I have been using since I bought the truck. They are the same price so I may give them a try. Any comments would be appreciated.



John

 

[SnoKing]

Has anyone tried these tires? http://www.michelinman.ca/catalog/tires/MichelinXPSTraction.html?tiretype=6&tire=5



I was wondering how they drove compared to the LTX 265/75/16's I have been using since I bought the truck. They are the same price so I may give them a try. Any comments would be appreciated.



John

Put them on my 5th Wheel. Best tire around for trailers. All steel! May ride a little hard on a truck. Low rolling resistance for better mileage.



ON Edit: I have the RIBs, you asked about the M/S. They are the same steel casing. Sorry



SNOKING

 

[2-ND TIME]

tires

Well I sure like my Michelin LTX M/S 235 85 16's.

KAL-Tire has also been very good.

 

[Jack in Alaska]

Kal Tire in Canada... ... .....



I purchased tires from them several weeks ago in BC on our way home to Alaska. This is the 2nd time I have used them.

1st class operation, good service, good price and a wide selection available. I highly reccomend them.

 

[willyslover]

John. . they are a great tire!!!!... I'm on about my 6th or 7th set of 6 now, great snow tire IMHO for a dually. . and damnnnn tuff sidewalls that don't flex like the LTX do... when new for a couple hundred miles they are a lil squirmmmy but settle down nicely after that.



and also have the ribs on my 5er [after blowing 2 goodjunks 1 hour apart and dammaging my 5er]

 

[CThomsen]

Have had a set on my 97 for about 6 months now. Great so far-went through some pretty deep snow last weekend without any problems.

 

[MMiller]

They wear like iron, stay balanced very well, resist nails better then anything else we have run. Usually will net you better fuel mileage then other makes. Dunno if you will see it on your pickup, but on the over the road trucks, the michelin X's get the best fuel economy. Like said above, they will be squirmy when new, then handle very nicely.



Michael

 

[TowPro]

I went through the "looking for good long wear tires" on my 98 several years ago. I priced goodyear G56 but everybody said they would ride real bad and there was only 3 in the whole USA.



I ended up buying the Cooper SRM II Comercial tire in Highway rib. They were great tires, and I could by 4 for around the price of 2 Michelin's. If they come out in 17's when my 3rd gen is due, I would buy them again in a heart beat.

 

[dhauser]

John, I have the XPS Ribs on my dually and luv-em! I had no problems on a trip to Cleveland while towing my flat bed in the snow. (but I have FWD and limited slip diff) Look into getting the traction tires safety siped, a whole world of differance in the amount of traction you will have. Have fun in the snow, Dave

 

[johncameron]

dhauser - What do you mean by "siped"?



These will be summer tires for me, I am running Blizzac 235/85/16's and am really happy with them. I want the extra traction in the summer for pulling my trailer on damp grass which can be a problem with a 2wd. I'm glad I have the limited slip rear end because if I didn't I'd be in huge trouble!



John

 

[SnoKing]

Guy at Les Schwab said to not sipe tires on a Cummins/Dodge, to much torque and it will tear the tires up. SNOKING

 

[Bob Cochran]

Has anyone tried these tires? http://www.michelinman.ca/catalog/tires/MichelinXPSTraction.html?tiretype=6&tire=5



I was wondering how they drove compared to the LTX 265/75/16's I have been using since I bought the truck. They are the same price so I may give them a try. Any comments would be appreciated.



John

I have the Michelin LTX M/S 235 85 16's on mine and have served me well both winter ice and snow and towing 5er in the summer. Like you I am looking into the XPS for all 6 tires probably this spring the M/S type not the ribs. Still debating if I will or not, am worried XPS non ribs will wear faster and be noiser than the LTX's. I have already decided to use the rib's on the 5er. So I am watching this thread with interest.



oh i am 2wd not 4wd also.

 

[MMiller]

I have the Michelin LTX M/S 235 85 16's on mine and have served me well both winter ice and snow and towing 5er in the summer. Like you I am looking into the XPS for all 6 tires probably this spring the M/S type not the ribs. Still debating if I will or not, am worried XPS non ribs will wear faster and be noiser than the LTX's. I have already decided to use the rib's on the 5er. So I am watching this thread with interest.



oh i am 2wd not 4wd also.

I have never heard tire noise from any of our XPS tractions, and they wear about like the ribs. On my moms 7. 3 E350 and current Excursion powered by p-joke, we ran the ribs on front for steering, and tractions out back. With life on gravel roads, and heavy trucks, the tires would last almost the same, with the tractions wearing out slighlty sooner then the steer tires, but one would expect that. They resist wear from rocks and gravel better then anything else we have tried. With the 2wd this works well, with mom and dad's conservitive driving(ie no burnouts, donuts, or slalom courses) rotating has not been necessary. On mom's e350 the ribs up front went almost 90,000 miles and the tractions ran 80,000 before replacing with new for winter. In all that time, only one was removed for a nail hole, the rest were never off the van.



Michael

 

[dhauser]

Safety siping is when the tire shop puts the mounted tire on a machine and a blade cuts a line (sipe) accross the tire tred. Some machines cut them real close together (1/4"-3/8" apart) big trucks are spread farther apart. I could see where the high torque could fold over the tred and tear out portions of tred if the sipes were too close. If your tires have big solid lugs you could go the "do it your self" route and cut ONE sipe across every other lug using a box cutter set so it will not cut the casing. I have done this many times and it is amazing how much more traction there is with just one sipe cut across a big solid lug. I have done this to tires on my vette which had lousey traction in the wet with no ill effect on the tire but great result in wet weather traction. It should also help in wet grass. Good luck, maby someone else out there has had exp. with siping on a dodge and could chime in, Dave

 

[JJW_ND]

Siping done right works..

I have siped all five sets of tires run on my 96. The first 3 sets were pulled hard hotshotting trailers. I experienced some feathering (running low 300 rwhp, pulling very hard) when we siped new tires the full tread depth, but since we now sipe 50% of the tread depth and finish it when tires wear down.



While others have commented about increased tire wear with siping, I have not found that to be the case. Tire wear is like oil analysis, the trends you see are mostly specific to your truck and not neccessarily related to the brand of tires or oil you use. Tire quality is what I have found gives long tire wear. The trailer company I pulled for always ran XPS tires. They got about the same miles out of them as I did with the Toyo M55s but at 40% increase in cost over what I paid for M55s. They ran Fords totally stock, I increased the power on mine early on.



IMHO, siping is a great option if you have to deal with winter conditions. XPS tires are a quality tire and should give very long life.



jjw

ND

 

[SnoKing]

I have siped all five sets of tires run on my 96. The first 3 sets were pulled hard hotshotting trailers. I experienced some feathering (running low 300 rwhp, pulling very hard) when we siped new tires the full tread depth, but since we now sipe 50% of the tread depth and finish it when tires wear down.



While others have commented about increased tire wear with siping, I have not found that to be the case. Tire wear is like oil analysis, the trends you see are mostly specific to your truck and not neccessarily related to the brand of tires or oil you use. Tire quality is what I have found gives long tire wear. The trailer company I pulled for always ran XPS tires. They got about the same miles out of them as I did with the Toyo M55s but at 40% increase in cost over what I paid for M55s. They ran Fords totally stock, I increased the power on mine early on.



IMHO, siping is a great option if you have to deal with winter conditions. XPS tires are a quality tire and should give very long life.



jjw

ND

Do you have any feedback on failure rates between the XPS' and other brands like the Toyo's? SNOKING

 

[Bob Cochran]

I have never heard tire noise from any of our XPS tractions, and they wear about like the ribs. On my moms 7. 3 E350 and current Excursion powered by p-joke, we ran the ribs on front for steering, and tractions out back. With life on gravel roads, and heavy trucks, the tires would last almost the same, with the tractions wearing out slighlty sooner then the steer tires, but one would expect that. They resist wear from rocks and gravel better then anything else we have tried. With the 2wd this works well, with mom and dad's conservitive driving(ie no burnouts, donuts, or slalom courses) rotating has not been necessary. On mom's e350 the ribs up front went almost 90,000 miles and the tractions ran 80,000 before replacing with new for winter. In all that time, only one was removed for a nail hole, the rest were never off the van.



Michael

Sounds like I need to get the XPX M/S for the rear and ribs for the front. Probably should get them now as tread getting thin on my LTX's but it probably will not get snow or ice here in the White Mountains of Eastern Arizona this year. We need it bad but if it happens my have to park the truck and wait for the thaw (probably only a day or 2)!! Isn't retirement grand?

 

[robbiesworld]

You can't go wrong with a Michelin tire. I love them. I ran a set of 265 75 16 perfect tire.