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Just thought that some that can read some wrong spelt words not put in the rite order and like to talk and discuss like human beings do and I knows theres some of ya's out there, Just sent this Email to my Pard GHarman Ya we can still talk bout things and have differin ways of thinkin and still be pards don't think he'd mind, So if's wrogn's spelt word affend you's don't read's not one words pass dis here. Had to split it up cause it was to long for TDR :rolleyes:


We had a good time, had a fantastic ride in seen many animals Elk,Deer,Bear,Hawks and Sheep. Our string had Penny and Myself, Nate Vickey, Dave Maree, Nora Steve and of course the Zac Man, he's going to be quite the mule man some day he wasn't the least big intimidated by the large animals, Penny had him in what amounts to a Indian car seat for little ones he had the time of his life just watching things go buy. We rode for at least a couple of hours before the coffee started barking, we stopped and took a little break grabbed a quick snack and some water and back at it again. Trail was relatively free of snow which was a surprise to me but we stayed low along the river until we needed to cross at a pass, still at 3K ft not that much snow. Steve and Dave asked how the heck do you know where your going, its not like its the first time that we have been in our backyard but still use a topo map and compass, Steve said that a GPS would work as good wouldn't it, ya imagine so until ya dropped it or the batteries took a crap on ya. This has been the way for Centuries and should be used by all that travel in the wilderness or at the very least as a back up knowledge if you do use GPS. Penny was asked if she knows how to use the map and compass? she can but I leave that to BIG he's never got us lost, temporarily disoriented a few times but never lost, the packing , stock, trail guide, and camp equipment are his part of the job, I cook and WE clean up that's the deal he don't complain about the food, and if he does, make something for himself its always worked for us.



When we got to the top of the pass I had the others close their eyes until I said to open them. When we were all in a line at the top I said ok take a look NOT ONE WORD WAS SAID *:) happy We got off and waited for the other string to catch up I didn't want them to cross the possible slide area without both Jason and I on one side and BIL/FIL on the other and riders tethered with a rope. Dave asked what about the animals what if they fall? don't want to sound ugly, but to hell with them if you want to be tied to a 1K kicking machine by all means tie on, they have a better chance without you on their back anyway. Once across the slide we had pretty much clear trail to the camp, Nora and Steve asked if we were going to set up camp, Penny and I told them and the others to catch some fish for dinner, that's all it took off the bunch of them went. Penny and I work pretty well at setting up the tipis and camp kitchen. Dave and Maree couldn't believe the place they have been to the Sierras but both said this is WAY better, I think the mode of travel has a lot to do with the feeling for the place. Got camp set up and a fire started chairs out and coffee and warm drink going of course the beer was stuck in the snow to keep it cool, Bob caught the first and the biggest so he won the pool, he wont have to get fire wood for his and Barbs, MIL/FIL's wood stove as part of his victory, others will stock their supply. Got Dave and his truckers back settled in, he gave his bunk a try and exclaimed that you FRIEND BIG are a man of your word this is every bit as good as the one at home, what a bed!!!! We took 4 tipis for this trip cause we didn't have to cut poles they were already here from the previous year Jason used this as a camp for some fishing people, Steve said wow!!! a real Indian tipi how cool is this. Nora said well look around there are enough Blackfeet Indians what did you think a holiday inn! he said the more time that I spend around you people the more I don't know WHAT TO EXPECT!!!




Got up early Saturday, normal for most of us lately, fired up the campfire and coffee pot. Took the camera and went exploring got a few nice Elk pictures and have been glad to see a bunch of Raptor type birds. MIL came out to where I had my butt parked, thinking that it would be a magnificent show when the sun peeked over the mountain and asked if she could watch the show with me? I had a wool blanket with me so she parked her fanny on half we watched the show, and a good one it was. She' been around me a lot lately I asked if every thing was OK with her health? She said just old age and wanting to spend time with you and take some of you with me when its time to go, before its to late. Penny came out and said breakfast was on so our time was cut a little short, more time will be had together before this trip is done im sure.



Elk/Deer/pork sausage combined, thick cut smoked bacon, biscuits and gravy 4 fried eggs hash browns cowboy coffee. That will stick to your ribs Pard!! good to go for the day in my case. Linda said that im heading for a hart attack eating like this but agreed that my blood work at the doctors office came back better than Normal so good to eat!!! Steve was looking at the coffee pots and then looked at me and asked is this like the beer with my name on it deal? *:)) laughing The little pot is for the normal coffee the other one is Cowboy Starbucks, he poured a cup of Cowboy and later went back for more Penny (who I think has taken a liking to Steve) asked you like that do ya, he likes the strong coffee, its better than the stuff in town with their designer coffee shop so another winner for your Cowboy coffee Pard.
 
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Had a good day fishing talking with MIL she Penny, Zac and I spent the mornings together. Penny, I, Nora, Steve, Dave and Maree took a ride to a spot that Penny and I have always found pretty. Its a hard climb to get there for the animals a straight up no BS climb with few spots for the animals to catch their wind, one reason that many don't go there. But I swear that the animals can smell the purity of the water you can see the lake bottom when you can go swimming (to damn cold now) at the middle of the lake, and sweet grass in the bowl where a jewel of a lake fed by 4 mountain waterfalls dropping the best tasting filtered water *:)) laughingin the BOB, we still don't take chances with Giardia above the water falls are two pretty good sized lakes that feed them, many animals use them so better safe than spending some time in the bushes with your pants around your ankles. Getting down the no BS climb is a no BS decent. Dave asked when we were going up, if we came down the same way? (must be the trucker in him *:)) laughing) Its not THAT BAD!!! But bad enough to make ya think about your idea of fun, just lean back till your head rests on the back of the horse and put your feet next to its ears and hang on to what ever you can snatch hold of. Daisy was breaking wind on the decent told Dave that she had her Jake Brake on, he started to laugh and the decent was done, it wasn't bad at all. Got back to camp and Bob had whipped the A** of the fishermen again, he asked in the AM if I know of any hot spots? Put him on a below water level, about thigh deep shelf that extends out into the lake you can only see this from above the lake that we have been above many times. He caught a 17 inch trout he's as happy as a puppy with two peckers, took a picture of him in his winners smile so we can hang it on the wall with the picture of him being the Captain of the Boat in So Calif. He later around campfire for dinner came and said he owes me, Don't owe me a thing Pard you have paid your bill in full!! long ago just being who you are. They saved the caught trout for breakfast on Sunday for Mothers day in the Mountains Girls choice. Dinner was some great tasting steaks baked spuds, sweetest corn on the cob that has been this year, BBQ style beans, and salad, washed down with 2 bottles of BIGNASTY BREW YA!!!! that's eating Pard. At the fire Steve said no desert? Louise came out with a double layer chocolate cake, Louise asked if it would be enough for him? he said he was just kidding but sense you went to all that trouble I will help eat my share *:)) laughing Nora sat next to him as close a underwear at the fire and wouldn't let go his arm, I seen her eye to eye at the fire and just said the word KEEPER? she smiled and shook her head yes *:x lovestruck Got the fires going and settled down in the Tipi's for all, left a little wood for the early morning to get up the heat in the Tipi before one has to get out of the bedrolls. Dave and Maree asked is there ANYTHING that you two forget Penny and BIG? seems like you know just what needs to be done and at what time. When you come to our Holiday Inn we take care of our Guest's and we don't have a light to leave on for ya!!! said Penny, Penny takes care of turning down the bedrolls to get them warm inside, and puts a little chocolate mint on their pillow she's the best camp hostess around. Jim and I + Steve did a little pick-in and howling, a few songs that everyone got a chance to join in on and time for me to get some sack time. Jason and his girl sat up with some of the young folks while us old-ins went to the Tipis for some sleep, Jason said that he will check the picket don't have to worry about it. With my Pard Jason in camp I don't worry I don't even remember my head hitting the pillow.









Got up Sunday open the Tipi flap to see what kind of a day it might be, and there was a 6x5 Elk standing in the camp just big and bold as could be. FIL/BOB had their lodge flap open looking also, I got Dave and Maree Jim and Louise we all watched this from the inside of our Tipi's quite a way to wake up. Got the fire up, coffee on and camera in hand off I went. Found a nice Buck biggest id seen is some time, Jason was across the meadow seen me and acted like he had a bow and took his shot and a thumbs up not much gets by this young man I call my Nephew and Pard. Went back to watch the best part of the AM show with MIL ate some bacon/eggs/hash browns, biscuits (no trout for me) Cowboy Starbucks. Had to change Batteries in my leg, it worked out better than expected, we loaded most of the Panniers light and Jason hoisted the heavy feed trapped mantie packs up, I threw the ropes and got them cinched in. Dave said your rope work is pretty wild, you two work without even a whisper of what the other is thinking and what needs to be done. Got the equipment in the tree cashes Jason climbed down and we saddled up started off down the trail and ran into a fellow packer taking in some camping clients. They looked like they had just walked out of one of the sports store catalogs, the packer I know from town asked about the slide and if I had left my ropes in place*:)) laughing No your going to have to earn that part of your money, told him where we had camped and some other trail info. The gal in the group asked about bears? Packer smiled and shook his head no, so I told them none to speak of just have to be careful about things. Got home took care of the animals and gear, scrubbed my carrot sat down and here we are.



Going to have some of Bobs stew for dinner its pretty good stuff with Louise's corn bread it will be just fine for tonight all are a little tuckered, me especially im not use to having to cater to so many getting old-er again rearing its ugly head. Family are spending the night and all will head in, in the AM some to work some to work at the shop for the Son. Just like going to work for me.



Hope you and yours had a great day for the Mom in your family and all is well on the home front. Weather here was great for the trip but kind of got nasty looking as we got close to home, made it just in time walked out of the barn from the trip chores and it started to sprinkle and has now gone but that's part of living in the mountains.



Take Care Pard

BIG
 
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Well written Big, I could give a **** less about any of the spelling.



MIL story and the downhill Jake Brake are my two most favorite parts.



Thanks for sharing it with us.



Mike.
 
Mike and Mr PToombs thanks MIL is special to me we have a love for the outdoors and like someone else I know don't care about speaking her peace she's a fine lady and better friend. This link is posted on another post but is more suited to this one its a half hour long but this is what I love to do would love to talk to this man but don't know how to approach the yoda of packing. Anyway its a good video

http://watch.montanapbs.org/video/2176749351
 
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Beautiful, BIG. Sounds like you had a better weekend than most could ever hope for. I'm counting the days (57) until we head out to my mothers in Wyoming. Theyre already making plans while were out there and it all involves being up at the cabin in the Snowies. 10 days of living in a cabin with no electricity, or phone service of any kind at 10,000 feet. I wish I could leave tomorrow.



So tell me BIG, how much would one of these camping/fishing guides cost a feller? ;) :)



JR
 
Beautiful, BIG. Sounds like you had a better weekend than most could ever hope for. I'm counting the days (57) until we head out to my mothers in Wyoming. Theyre already making plans while were out there and it all involves being up at the cabin in the Snowies. 10 days of living in a cabin with no electricity, or phone service of any kind at 10,000 feet. I wish I could leave tomorrow.

So tell me BIG, how much would one of these camping/fishing guides cost a feller? ;) :)

JR

I don't charge for visits, Nephew makes a living at them, I do it cause I do it.
 
I don't charge for visits, Nephew makes a living at them, I do it cause I do it.



To explain this a little better D4L. I was pretty used up last night!



I cant legally charge for an Outfitted and guided outing, My permits are for packing only. What this means is that I can take you and YOUR equipment to an arranged place leave you there and return at a designated time to PACK you and your equipment and game out YOU must obtain ALL required permits for hunting, fishing and access to the wilderness. However my Nephew has an Outfitters license which means that he can arrange the outing set you up with the required equipment and help you obtain license, it use to be if you paid for an Outfitted hunt you were GAURANTEED a hunting license for our zone in which we operate a fishing license is not a big deal at all. For hunting the place we hunt is VERY hard to gain access to for any without animals or a VERY STOUT SET OF LEGS, VERY STOUT!! Before a rifle can be drawn except in self defense you have an 8 mile ride. During hunting season I work for him under his Outfitters license so I can pack you in and use an outfitted camp and Guide you on a hunt. Somebody is going to want to see money exchanged for said services. Im not sure how that works cause I don't have to worry about it and never wanted to. The hunt area being so remote is good because the tags are almost never all taken because of the access so hunters are pretty much guaranteed tags.



To get around this we are Pards and are going out just like any two Pards with animals can. Still need license's and all the necessary permits but no restrictions to use for what amounts to just friends going out.



I never wanted really to be an Outfitter to many A** Holes hunting and fishing. Hunters are two kinds (1) Hardcore hunt like there's no next chance, YOU have to get one and work as hard as needed to get one. These are the ones that I enjoy guiding they are in as good of shape or better in some cases than the guide, they know their weapon they know their abilities in the wilderness and I can leave them alone without worrying if they are going blow a hole in something other than GAME. These guys get up at 2 or 3 am and hunt all day, if we return to camp it will be well after dark, we go prepared to stay out at least overnight if not longer. We have one hunter that he and I get along great he is as much into this as I, I will bust my A** to get him on a Trophy ElK / Deer usually its a combo hunt we have been Pards for quite a few years, he and his Son come year after year without fail most times they make plans when we return to home for the following year.



Then you have (2) a lazy SOB that wants to get up have a leisurely breakfast at 6 get dressed be out in the field at 8 and get off the horse take two steps and shoot a trophy and be back in camp for Brunch. IT AINT LIKELY GOING TO HAPPEN then the P and M that the guide is not doing his best there is no game to shoot, on and on and on. After spending any place from 5k to 6k for a hunt they start in with what a RIP OFF,this sucks, Just to much BS for me. We had one guy that P and M so bad he started calling family names FIL was running the show back then. He said some things that if I were there he wouldn't have got out his mouth. When Jason and I got in from town from dropping game off at the butcher and returning with supplies my wife's Grandfather asked if we could take him back to town. I said ya but why? Grandfather was a calm as could be man he just said that he needed to leave. I went and jumped in the creek cause it had been a few days sense I had, Penny came and washed my back and told me what he said. On the way back to town Jason, I and the hunter took a break, he fell off his horse SEVERAL TIMES face first into the ground and one time in to my elbow cause I was trying to break his fall so he didn't hurt himself, it didn't work as hard as I tried, so he wanted to visit the local medical facilities in our town the next day the Sheriff came and said that he was assaulted, REALLY I didn't see anyone else on trail I must have missed the assault Gee I hope he's alright. :eek: Jason and I told our side of the story and it came down to he said that I ASSULTED him :eek: Me!!! OMG Me!! he must be confused from all of the falls he took. Last I heard he had seen enough of the Medical facilities and thought that drinking mash-taters thru a straw was as good as he was going to get and left. So watch your step out of the stirrup your foot sometimes can get hung up and one could get hurt.



Fishermen are a bit different I don't fish but kind of know where and how and what they are biting on its boring to me, but if they want to pay for the trip I will catch some ZZZZZes while they wave their arm around with a stick trying to swat the bugs out of the air.
 
Enjoyed every bit of it Pard. I've done outing like that in the High Uinta's Wilderness in Northeastern, Utah. I made three or four trips with my ex-FIL for a week at a time. It was nice, but not as magnificent as Montana.



Well written, grizz
 
Enjoyed every bit of it Pard. I've done outing like that in the High Uinta's Wilderness in Northeastern, Utah. I made three or four trips with my ex-FIL for a week at a time. It was nice, but not as magnificent as Montana.



Well written, grizz



Never did much in UT Grizz, other than a couple of times when we went to the National Parks in the southern part of the state. Camping like we and yourself did really puts your thinking in perspective spending time with family members that are getting up in years is of utmost importance to me. I almost lost out on gaining insight from my Wife's Grandfather, wish I had spent more with him before his passing.



Any place you hang your hat is magnificent Pard, its mostly in the minds eye and how you view things even Ca. has it beauty it sure wasn't in the cities. We watched a TV show and it was about the forests of the world, the show came around to the forests of the U. S. and it showed Ca the Redwoods and Sequoias those are something to see, it went to our neck of the woods and its pretty nice to but DIFFERENT, Same when they went to the Pacific Northwest where we have gone several times to Olympic National Park, Then over to Maine the wife liked the colors in fall, she noticed that that forest made ours look like a desert there were places in Maine's forest that it would be hard to pass thru because its so thick with trees. ALL WERE GREAT and DIFFERENT.
 
I would have loved to have been able to spend a mothers day like that with my family, but at last all I got to do was spend all day on the tractor seat. I always enjoy your stories BIG keep them coming. PS I can't spell either. I think the national park service should hire you to write brochures on the joys of the outdoors in the parks.
 
I would have loved to have been able to spend a mothers day like that with my family, but at last all I got to do was spend all day on the tractor seat. I always enjoy your stories BIG keep them coming. PS I can't spell either. I think the national park service should hire you to write brochures on the joys of the outdoors in the parks.

The N and the p on national park should have been capitalized :-laf sorry I just couldn't resist
 
Big I told you I couldn't spell and as you see I don't use correct punctuation either. :-laf Have a great week.
 
I'm going to try, as soon as I get my Butt up out of this chair, I need to go do some work outside. But it feels good to do nothing sometimes

Take care
BIG
 
Q:

When do rocky mountain elk start shedding their antlers?
A:

The bigger ones typically shed them in February or March. The little spikes can keep them much longer.

Q: When do mule deer shed their antlers?

A: Mule deer tend to shed their antlers between January and March.

BIG was real lucky to see all those animals with their antlers.
 
ATA you've been reading too many Field and Stream's. Elk start shedding their antlers after rut, which is typically over in November. How do I know? I grew up in Wyoming. I've seen some pretty good sheds around Christmas.
 
Never did much in UT Grizz, other than a couple of times when we went to the National Parks in the southern part of the state. Camping like we and yourself did really puts your thinking in perspective spending time with family members that are getting up in years is of utmost importance to me. I almost lost out on gaining insight from my Wife's Grandfather, wish I had spent more with him before his passing.



Any place you hang your hat is magnificent Pard, its mostly in the minds eye and how you view things even Ca. has it beauty it sure wasn't in the cities. We watched a TV show and it was about the forests of the world, the show came around to the forests of the U. S. and it showed Ca the Redwoods and Sequoias those are something to see, it went to our neck of the woods and its pretty nice to but DIFFERENT, Same when they went to the Pacific Northwest where we have gone several times to Olympic National Park, Then over to Maine the wife liked the colors in fall, she noticed that that forest made ours look like a desert there were places in Maine's forest that it would be hard to pass thru because its so thick with trees. ALL WERE GREAT and DIFFERENT.









The High Uinta's and the Wasatch Mountains in Utah are nice, which are part of the Rocky's, but nothing like the Rocky Mountains in Montana, Wyoming, Colorado and Northern New Mexico. In my opinion. Not much wildlife in the High Uinta's, with the exception of a few deer. No elk, bear, moose or goat.



We'd get to the trail head about 5 in the morning. We'd saddled up along with our individual duffle bag and fishing gear. We would get the two pack horses ready. One pack horse carried the FIL's kitchen, the other supplies. FIL was always talking about getting mules for packing, but never did. We'd ride all day, cross the Duchesne River and on to Governor Dern Lake. That was where we always set up camp. The FIL had a lot of pots and pans, coffee pot and other provision stashed in a near by cave. No one ever bothered them because no one ever went there, except for occasional Boy Scouts who hiked all the way from the trail head. We did catch a lot of fish at Governor Dern Lake, which was a natural small lake. If we didn't we weren't going to have much to eat.



Every day we'd saddled up our horses and ride to another natural lake and fish. The FIL knew how to get to all those places and never got us lost. He did carry a topo map. He spent so much time in those High Uinta's that he knew them like the back of his hand. If he's still alive he'd be about 92.



We'd spend a whole week, 7 days, and come back smelling worse than the horses. Oh, we did get in the lake now and then and wash off some of that grime Those were the most fun trips. No cell phone, no computers no TV. Just us and the horses.



I took along plenty of coffee and drank plenty of it. The rest couldn't drink coffee because of their religion, but they sure liked the small of my coffee. I did take a lot of pictures, but they are the film and print type. I need to figure out a way to get them on My Documents.



grizz
 
Q:

When do rocky mountain elk start shedding their antlers?
A:

The bigger ones typically shed them in February or March. The little spikes can keep them much longer.

Q: When do mule deer shed their antlers?

A: Mule deer tend to shed their antlers between January and March.

BIG was real lucky to see all those animals with their antlers.
antlers. The pedicles are a permanent fixture on the bull's forehead, and are also the point from which the antlers annually break off.

After shedding each year, antler growth begins in late March or early April depending on the age of the bull. Older bulls shed their antlers the earliest and begin regrowing new ones the earliest. That is why if you are shed hunting in March you may be finding larger fresh sheds (“browns”) while at the same time observing smaller bulls with antlers still attached.

The bull's new growing bone is covered by skin with numerous blood vessels which we refer to as “velvet”. A healthy bull elk can produce up to 10 pounds of velvet a year! Antlers in the velvet can grow up to 1″ in one day! It is amazing to watch bulls antlers develop

D4L it is different in some areas that some start early and some start late CO,WY,MT,ID all have early stages of development Don't know why the difference the article states that feed is a factor. Elk and Deer in our States have been supplemented for years its more of an industry than some would like it to be, but money to parts of the state is essential like ours. Our town relies on hunters to bring in cash for the economy with a population of 2k our town swells to 4k and 5k during the summer and hunting fishing is an extension to the cash crop.


ATA DO YOU NEED SOME HELP PULLING YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR A** I DO HAVE A COME-A-LONG BECAUSE ITS GOING TO BE A TOUGH PULL, YOURS HAS BEEN PRETTY MUCH STUCK FOR LIFE.
 
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The High Uinta's and the Wasatch Mountains in Utah are nice, which are part of the Rocky's, but nothing like the Rocky Mountains in Montana, Wyoming, Colorado and Northern New Mexico. In my opinion. Not much wildlife in the High Uinta's, with the exception of a few deer. No elk, bear, moose or goat.



We'd get to the trail head about 5 in the morning. We'd saddled up along with our individual duffle bag and fishing gear. We would get the two pack horses ready. One pack horse carried the FIL's kitchen, the other supplies. FIL was always talking about getting mules for packing, but never did. We'd ride all day, cross the Duchesne River and on to Governor Dern Lake. That was where we always set up camp. The FIL had a lot of pots and pans, coffee pot and other provision stashed in a near by cave. No one ever bothered them because no one ever went there, except for occasional Boy Scouts who hiked all the way from the trail head. We did catch a lot of fish at Governor Dern Lake, which was a natural small lake. If we didn't we weren't going to have much to eat.



Every day we'd saddled up our horses and ride to another natural lake and fish. The FIL knew how to get to all those places and never got us lost. He did carry a topo map. He spent so much time in those High Uinta's that he knew them like the back of his hand. If he's still alive he'd be about 92.



We'd spend a whole week, 7 days, and come back smelling worse than the horses. Oh, we did get in the lake now and then and wash off some of that grime Those were the most fun trips. No cell phone, no computers no TV. Just us and the horses.



I took along plenty of coffee and drank plenty of it. The rest couldn't drink coffee because of their religion, but they sure liked the small of my coffee. I did take a lot of pictures, but they are the film and print type. I need to figure out a way to get them on My Documents.



grizz



As for hunting in UT I will have to take your word on it, When my Dad got transferred to Calif from VA in the Navy, He went hunting in Southern UT the first year we were in CA. I didn't get to go on that hunt cause of school my Dad was pretty disappointed in the size of the deer and ended up NOT shooting anything. We later that year went to CO where we did most of our hunting. I wonder why the state is devoid of Game? ELK/Deer management Practices in MT have brought back ELK in ABUNDACE in our zone FIL/BIL have been hunting here for Many years more than I and I haven't missed to many seasons in the last 36 years that I have been part of the family. I have a friend (I know ATA that bothers you for SOME REASON) That works for the Dept. of Forestry and the LoLo National forest is his domain. They took some pictures last season that I posted on site that a snow covered mountain top looks like it had dirt on it not snow, IT WAS ELK by the thousands!!! they drop feed and mineral blocks on the tops of mountains to supplement them. I usually put out hay for them as they come into our backyard in the winter to get down off the mountains to get into the trees to keep out of the wind. I think that they know that they are safe there also.



I haven't been winter camping to much this year main reason was my leg, and the Son, Daughter needed dear old Dad to help them with some of their projects to get them settled in MT. I don't mind TO MUCH but like you hinted in your post, its that unless you've done it you don't understand the gratification that comes with animals and camping. We took some Friends that have been camping with us many times in Ca but never on horseback. When they went last weekend it was a WHOLE different ball game. Dave my Pard said I didn't understand why Penny and yourself drove from Ca to MT year after year but NOW I DO!!! its not that MT is all that much different but the mode of travel is what brings the romance of the place to life. I know that some that haven't experienced it think its funny for me to dress and live in the style of the 1800's but its not just a hobby to me its part of me and how I choose to live the wife is the same in her ways also which makes us the perfect match.



BIG
 
After shedding each year, antler growth begins in late March or early April depending on the age of the bull. Older bulls shed their antlers the earliest and begin regrowing new ones the earliest. That is why if you are shed hunting in March you may be finding larger fresh sheds (“browns”) while at the same time observing smaller bulls with antlers still attached.








ATA DO YOU NEED SOME HELP PULLING YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR A** I DO HAVE A COME-A-LONG BECAUSE ITS GOING TO BE A TOUGH PULL, YOURS HAS BEEN PRETTY MUCH STUCK FOR LIFE.

No, but I think you need to read what you post. If they start growing back in March or early April how did you see this 5X6. Did his grow back that fast. I think you need to be pulling your out of whatever it's stuck in?
 
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