Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) more dead pedal

[bigdaddycummins]

i have been dealing with dead pedal for a while now. had a pump installed 300 miles ago but still get dead pedal . vp44 was replaced 50000 miles ago . my truck has no cel so went to autozone and came up 016 code. my question is could that code just be burried in there from before. I turn key off and on and power is back never fails. any ideas ? also if it is the vp44 how much for cummings to do it and do they test it to make sure that the vp44 is the problem thank you

 

[Cummins724]

Did you change the lift pump after the VP44 failed? If not... . you may have fried another one. The po216 code is the vp death code... . Sorry. How much fuel pressure do you have?

 

[socalmat]

My experience with 0216 code and the dreaded dead pedal/DDP

On the cold overcast morning of Januaray 16th, 2007, my wife and I began the decent into the California Bread Basket called the Central Valley. It was 4 am. The cruise control was set at 70 mph, as we coasted down the Grapevine into Bakersfield, Ca. At this point, everything seemed normal. There are occasional areas where the highway levels out which requires everyone to “give it the gas” in order to maintain a certain speed. Outside air temperature was around 35 degrees.



It is confusing the first time you get a dead pedal. The truck began to slow down and I wondered if the cruise control had been shut off. I gave it more go pedal and nothing. UhOh! Fuel pressure remained normal for the stock lift pump at around 10 psi. I had not been schooled on these issues and was totally unaware of what was happening. I thought it could have been bad fuel with a load of water that only sucked water when I was going down a steep hill.



Over the next couple of days, I drained the water separator several times as the DDP kept recurring. After our trip, I did the key on off thing as well as borrowed Auto Zones code scanner to verify that in fact I had a 0216 code.



Since then, my truck has not had another DDP. The only thing different is that I install an Airdog, the greatest fuel system improvement in the world! That was 40 days ago. I did notice that the truck just seems happier after the Airdog. It really runs better! Can’t really explain it.



I am ready for a VP44 failure, but will experiment by leaving this one on as long as possible. Right now I am getting 22. 41 mpg between 63 and 75 mph. I attribute this to the Airdog, my new wheels and tires and conservative driving.

 

[Big A]

On the cold overcast morning of Januaray 16th, 2007, my wife and I began the decent into the California Bread Basket called the Central Valley. It was 4 am. The cruise control was set at 70 mph, as we coasted down the Grapevine into Bakersfield, Ca. At this point, everything seemed normal. There are occasional areas where the highway levels out which requires everyone to “give it the gas” in order to maintain a certain speed. Outside air temperature was around 35 degrees.



It is confusing the first time you get a dead pedal. The truck began to slow down and I wondered if the cruise control had been shut off. I gave it more go pedal and nothing. UhOh! Fuel pressure remained normal for the stock lift pump at around 10 psi. I had not been schooled on these issues and was totally unaware of what was happening. I thought it could have been bad fuel with a load of water that only sucked water when I was going down a steep hill.



Over the next couple of days, I drained the water separator several times as the DDP kept recurring. After our trip, I did the key on off thing as well as borrowed Auto Zones code scanner to verify that in fact I had a 0216 code.



Since then, my truck has not had another DDP. The only thing different is that I install an Airdog, the greatest fuel system improvement in the world! That was 40 days ago. I did notice that the truck just seems happier after the Airdog. It really runs better! Can’t really explain it.



I am ready for a VP44 failure, but will experiment by leaving this one on as long as possible. Right now I am getting 22. 41 mpg between 63 and 75 mph. I attribute this to the Airdog, my new wheels and tires and conservative driving.

I'm in the same situation as you, except no dead pedal, only 0216. My 0216 disappeared about 10,000 miles back. Like you, I'm cautiosly optimistic. So far no more problems.

Big A

 

[FLynes]

Please forgive my ignorance on this matter, but I'm still learning my way around the 24v motors..... what exactly is dead pedal and what causes it?

 

[Big A]

I believe, it's when you give it throttle, and there is no response. I think you'll know when it happens. I have not experienced it, but from what I understand, it's obvious.

Big A

 

[easleyj1]

I messed around with mine for about 25,000 miles and 6 months after I got the first 0216. Sometimes it would go 4 to 6 weeks no problem and then I might get 6 or 8 dead pedals in a fifteen minute span. It will die sooner or later. I use my truck to pull livestock and a break down on the road is not good, so I bit the bullet and ordered a vp from Bob Wagner. Problem solved.



Jonny

 

[isb360]

another cause of intermittent dead pedal is failing APPS (Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor) which is a variable-resistance type device with an arm sweeping past a coil. Over time, the thing wears and you'll begin getting occasional dead pedal.

 

[Cummins724]

another cause of intermittent dead pedal is failing APPS (Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor) which is a variable-resistance type device with an arm sweeping past a coil. Over time, the thing wears and you'll begin getting occasional dead pedal.

He has a 0216 code... . VP44 code.