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Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) more smoke, stock truck
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if it were my truck, I would pull the AFC spring OUT, grind the plate about . 050" deeper than the deepest spot on the stock profile, slide it full forward, and start saving for a transmission
bbodammer: I'm not intending to pick on you here, but the following is something that needs to be said on this site. I know it won't make me very popular, but the truth sometimes hurts:
Yeah buddy! What we diesel owners really need is more "smoking" trucks on the road.
We haven't been targeted and forced to run low-grade, low-lubricant (sulfur) fuel enough yet (which we also pay more for).
We haven't been hit with enough emissions regulations yet or had enough of our power and fuel mileage compromised by the same. Not to mention the increased cost of the trucks and the maintenence.
We can still look forward to more and more roadside emission testing. More "tamper-proof" motors. More regulation. More fines. Al Gore-types want you to have to pay additional "sin taxes" (global warming credits) already.
Our big, noisy trucks are already not real welcome on the road in case you haven't noticed. And the people who hate them most make alot of phone calls and emails to legislators.
Our DOT actually used our tax dollars to erect billboards that said "Report smoking tailpipes" followed by their 800 number. The picture on the billboard was of a diesel pickup tailpipe belching black smoke. They had so many tree-huggers and little old ladies calling in that they finally tore the one down in town. Not a good reason for us when you think about it.
But Hey! It's fun to show off.
It's fun to annoy and gag the other people on the road with the sickening sight and stench of black, oily, unburned diesel fuel. It's fun to attract more attention than some kid in a ghetto beater with 2 million watt subwoofers. Until you realize that you are attracting some very negative attention. For all of us.
Save the smoke and showing off for exhibitions and competition events where the people are diesel fans.
How about trying to extract every useable BTU of energy from every drop of fuel that you possibly can instead? That would mean both an increase in power and an increase in fuel economy. Not a bad deal with diesel over $3 per gallon already. Diesels are highly efficient, and clean, engines if you let them be. Wouldn't it be nice to see more diesel-powered vehicles of all shapes and sizes available? Negative public opinion and misconception are why you don't. "The public" seems to think our motors are dirty, noisy, smoking pollution machines. Silly folks.
Excess, unnecessary smoke is not just wasted fuel, it is also inconsiderate and immature.
I have never heard of any foxy babe saying "My, what big, black, sooty stacks you have! I consider those a phallic symbol. And you have TWO! Are they just for looks or can you pretty-please blow a huge, smelly double cloud of black smoke just for me? Diesel fumes are my favorite aphrodisiac. That would SO turn me on!"
If you really dig smoke, you need to just save some of that wasted fuel and throw it on big pile of old tires. Light that baby up and throw a party... downwind for maximum effect, of course.
I only hope that some Sierra Club idiot isn't reading this. I can picture them sending copies of this "how do I make MORE smoke" post to their "Green" legislators to prove how we dirty-diesel owners actually enjoy polluting and try to increase our output intentionally.
I never thought I'd see the day when I parked my Diesel Dodge because it was cheaper to drive my 454 gas-motored Chevy K30 crew cab. Fuel prices are just about at that point right now, and state and federal governments are looking for every excuse to raise the taxes on diesel even further.
Yeah buddy! What we diesel owners really need is more "smoking" trucks on the road.
We haven't been targeted and forced to run low-grade, low-lubricant (sulfur) fuel enough yet (which we also pay more for).
We haven't been hit with enough emissions regulations yet or had enough of our power and fuel mileage compromised by the same. Not to mention the increased cost of the trucks and the maintenence.
We can still look forward to more and more roadside emission testing. More "tamper-proof" motors. More regulation. More fines. Al Gore-types want you to have to pay additional "sin taxes" (global warming credits) already.
Our big, noisy trucks are already not real welcome on the road in case you haven't noticed. And the people who hate them most make alot of phone calls and emails to legislators.
Our DOT actually used our tax dollars to erect billboards that said "Report smoking tailpipes" followed by their 800 number. The picture on the billboard was of a diesel pickup tailpipe belching black smoke. They had so many tree-huggers and little old ladies calling in that they finally tore the one down in town. Not a good reason for us when you think about it.
But Hey! It's fun to show off.
It's fun to annoy and gag the other people on the road with the sickening sight and stench of black, oily, unburned diesel fuel. It's fun to attract more attention than some kid in a ghetto beater with 2 million watt subwoofers. Until you realize that you are attracting some very negative attention. For all of us.
Save the smoke and showing off for exhibitions and competition events where the people are diesel fans.
How about trying to extract every useable BTU of energy from every drop of fuel that you possibly can instead? That would mean both an increase in power and an increase in fuel economy. Not a bad deal with diesel over $3 per gallon already. Diesels are highly efficient, and clean, engines if you let them be. Wouldn't it be nice to see more diesel-powered vehicles of all shapes and sizes available? Negative public opinion and misconception are why you don't. "The public" seems to think our motors are dirty, noisy, smoking pollution machines. Silly folks.
Excess, unnecessary smoke is not just wasted fuel, it is also inconsiderate and immature.
I have never heard of any foxy babe saying "My, what big, black, sooty stacks you have! I consider those a phallic symbol. And you have TWO! Are they just for looks or can you pretty-please blow a huge, smelly double cloud of black smoke just for me? Diesel fumes are my favorite aphrodisiac. That would SO turn me on!"
If you really dig smoke, you need to just save some of that wasted fuel and throw it on big pile of old tires. Light that baby up and throw a party... downwind for maximum effect, of course.
I only hope that some Sierra Club idiot isn't reading this. I can picture them sending copies of this "how do I make MORE smoke" post to their "Green" legislators to prove how we dirty-diesel owners actually enjoy polluting and try to increase our output intentionally.
I never thought I'd see the day when I parked my Diesel Dodge because it was cheaper to drive my 454 gas-motored Chevy K30 crew cab. Fuel prices are just about at that point right now, and state and federal governments are looking for every excuse to raise the taxes on diesel even further.
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he's got a stock 94 auto... it's not going to smoke THAT bad...
I agree, and I try to drive around my smoke and keep it to a minimum, but like I said, if it was MY truck, that's exactly what I would do to it.
I agree, and I try to drive around my smoke and keep it to a minimum, but like I said, if it was MY truck, that's exactly what I would do to it.
Hey guys, I agree with you all here. By no means do I like to throw a ton of smoke all the time b/c I also tow a trailer. I guess I'm used to my '02 when I can turn it up and back off. I have to realize that the 12v's are not adjustable on the fly. I have my '02 dialed back to just a light haze on take off and clears up pretty good even on the high settings, but man it's nice when you want the smoke, it's there for you
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I understand that and stress again that I certainly don't want to single anybody out. But we as a group have a responsibility to ourselves if no one else. I personally can't afford higher prices for fuel. My income has not changed since before Katrina when the oil companies first worked up the nerve to see how much they could rip us off. I'm not alone.
It seems everything I like to do or be involved with anymore is "politically incorrect" and getting hammered by greenies, politicians, and insurance companies. From hunting to motocross racing to modifying and working on my own vehicles. In one short generation we have gone from the height of the muscle car era to where we are now. What does the future hold for our kids?
The big G already wants your future vehicle computer to monitor and report via satellite any emissions violations. It's coming folks, like it or not. If your vehicle is not compliant, they want to be able to remotely shut it off. Then fine you.
Mr. Orwell's vision of the future was only off by a few decades. We are already in that battle and should be taking a more active stance to fight it. Don't give the enemy any free shots.
It seems everything I like to do or be involved with anymore is "politically incorrect" and getting hammered by greenies, politicians, and insurance companies. From hunting to motocross racing to modifying and working on my own vehicles. In one short generation we have gone from the height of the muscle car era to where we are now. What does the future hold for our kids?
The big G already wants your future vehicle computer to monitor and report via satellite any emissions violations. It's coming folks, like it or not. If your vehicle is not compliant, they want to be able to remotely shut it off. Then fine you.
Mr. Orwell's vision of the future was only off by a few decades. We are already in that battle and should be taking a more active stance to fight it. Don't give the enemy any free shots.
JEEZ, SRath
He only asked how to get his truck to smoke a little bit more.
Different strokes for different folks!
And just think, WE are the one who are doing the GREEN thing. All of these people who preach GREEN, still ***** that our trucks are to loud or are to stinky.
We'll never win.
Just like my bumper sticker says:
"BIODIESEL, FEED A FARMER, STARVE A TERRORIST"
I buy soy biodiesel at every fillup, for my truck and my wifes Benz diesel. Its Illinois farmer soy biodiesel. So I am actually doing my part in the GREEN world. Plus I am supporting the Illinois farmers. I was born and raised in Illinois and am a PROUD Union member, that also is helping to build a soy bio-diesel plant right now in Seneca. They have another 3 planned in the next 2 years.
He only asked how to get his truck to smoke a little bit more.
Different strokes for different folks!
And just think, WE are the one who are doing the GREEN thing. All of these people who preach GREEN, still ***** that our trucks are to loud or are to stinky.
We'll never win.
Just like my bumper sticker says:
"BIODIESEL, FEED A FARMER, STARVE A TERRORIST"
I buy soy biodiesel at every fillup, for my truck and my wifes Benz diesel. Its Illinois farmer soy biodiesel. So I am actually doing my part in the GREEN world. Plus I am supporting the Illinois farmers. I was born and raised in Illinois and am a PROUD Union member, that also is helping to build a soy bio-diesel plant right now in Seneca. They have another 3 planned in the next 2 years.
I actually could have phrased it differently, but knowing that 12v's smoke more b/c they are not on-the-fly adjustable, I knew there wasn't a good way around this one. I'm looking for a bit more power. But on the same note it just so happens that more fuel=more power= more smoke. Thanks for the help
Vaughn MacKenzie
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I think most would agree there's no issue with a little "normal" diesel smoke as it goes hand in hand with these trucks. I don't like making excess smoke but certainly blow some black stuff from time to time myself. I've been careful to not make a habit of it and drive clean at least 95% of the time. But turning day into night or obliterating the freeway. . . that's not so cool and should be frowned upon, especially if it's done without discretion.
You guys are right. I know he wasn't out to literally darken the horizon or our diesels' futures. And Tony makes an excellent point about the biodiesel being extremely "green" and patriotic, too.
Personally, I like it when people ask me why my diesel pickup doesn't smoke. (I tell them I do enough for both of us and it's not a Ford. ) I definitely don't like telling anyone else what they should or shouldn't do with their vehicles. Just realize, we are being scrutinized, and targeted, and taxed to death.
And I have read too many posts about finding it "cool" to leave serious smoke and enjoying how it annoys other drivers. And no one else has stepped up to play devil's advocate by putting a face to what we all know is true: Diesels (vehicles that supposedly smoke) are a minority as targeted by legislators and as powerless in numbers to do anything about it as people who smoke are. Cigarettes are $5 per pack and it's all tax and still rising... Smokers of any sort, diesel or human, are a "politically incorrect" minority and the easiest target there is. The worst thing any minority member can do is to role-play the stereotype hung on them and give it credence.
Diesel will skyrocket like cigarettes due to taxes simply because most voters don't buy diesel directly. As a truck driver, I can assure you they all actually do buy diesel with everything else they buy, but they don't seem to realize it. As far as voters and legislators are concerned,Trucking companies buy diesel. And trucking companies can't vote and have deep pockets (by virtue of the fact that they simply pass the costs, no matter how high, along to every consumer). But consumers pretend that's not true and everything's fine as long as they don't tax gasoline as much.
Our new POS governor, Chet Culver, has missed NO opportunity to raise and create more taxes. That is ALL he has done since taking office. He uses taxation as a weapon and targets anyone he personally feels is "politically incorrect". Everything that happens, good or bad, is a new reason to tax us more. He even exploited the tragic Minnesota bridge collapse on the day after it happened by saying he plans to immediately increase gas and diesel taxes even further to pay for Iowa bridge repairs. When that statement caused an uproar, he quickly backpedaled and said it was only the diesel tax he planned to raise.
The silence was deafening...
One look at the presidential candidates, especially on the democrat side, and at the new congress as well as my state's governor ought to be enough to cause a sphincter-factor of 9. 5 for any diesel owner. Blowing smoke and raising taxes are their "big thing", if you know what I mean...
(Do you suppose it all started with Bill and Monica and one smokin' cigar. . ?:-laf)
Personally, I like it when people ask me why my diesel pickup doesn't smoke. (I tell them I do enough for both of us and it's not a Ford. ) I definitely don't like telling anyone else what they should or shouldn't do with their vehicles. Just realize, we are being scrutinized, and targeted, and taxed to death.
And I have read too many posts about finding it "cool" to leave serious smoke and enjoying how it annoys other drivers. And no one else has stepped up to play devil's advocate by putting a face to what we all know is true: Diesels (vehicles that supposedly smoke) are a minority as targeted by legislators and as powerless in numbers to do anything about it as people who smoke are. Cigarettes are $5 per pack and it's all tax and still rising... Smokers of any sort, diesel or human, are a "politically incorrect" minority and the easiest target there is. The worst thing any minority member can do is to role-play the stereotype hung on them and give it credence.
Diesel will skyrocket like cigarettes due to taxes simply because most voters don't buy diesel directly. As a truck driver, I can assure you they all actually do buy diesel with everything else they buy, but they don't seem to realize it. As far as voters and legislators are concerned,Trucking companies buy diesel. And trucking companies can't vote and have deep pockets (by virtue of the fact that they simply pass the costs, no matter how high, along to every consumer). But consumers pretend that's not true and everything's fine as long as they don't tax gasoline as much.
Our new POS governor, Chet Culver, has missed NO opportunity to raise and create more taxes. That is ALL he has done since taking office. He uses taxation as a weapon and targets anyone he personally feels is "politically incorrect". Everything that happens, good or bad, is a new reason to tax us more. He even exploited the tragic Minnesota bridge collapse on the day after it happened by saying he plans to immediately increase gas and diesel taxes even further to pay for Iowa bridge repairs. When that statement caused an uproar, he quickly backpedaled and said it was only the diesel tax he planned to raise.
The silence was deafening...
One look at the presidential candidates, especially on the democrat side, and at the new congress as well as my state's governor ought to be enough to cause a sphincter-factor of 9. 5 for any diesel owner. Blowing smoke and raising taxes are their "big thing", if you know what I mean...
(Do you suppose it all started with Bill and Monica and one smokin' cigar. . ?:-laf)
it's not correct that more fuel =more power=more smoke. a light haze means the fuel air mixture is just right. more smoke is unburned fuel. a lot of that soot is going right into your motor oil. i agree with s rath. take notice of modern otr trucks of today. just a light haze from the stacks. modern diesels are computer controled for a reason-the most power from the least amount of fuel. my 2 cents.
not true... if I adjust my truck to only haze like modern 18 wheelers, the turbo takes forever to spool. a good dark gray haze is best IMO
Adjust the star wheel forward. Move the plate forward. If you don't like that grind the plate flat or a 100 plate. Bump up the timing. See what you think. With my 94 stock I put in a 8 plate and put the star wheel forward. Big improvement but my transmission never felt that good.
That lasted a whole month or two. It has a few more mods now. And a built transmission for the fun.
Good luck.
That lasted a whole month or two. It has a few more mods now. And a built transmission for the fun.
Good luck.
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I would say to grind the plate to a 10, so his transmission can survive a little.
Like everyone said, fuel plate forward, afc forward and tighten up the starwheel.
You can adjust smoke levels from there.
Like everyone said, fuel plate forward, afc forward and tighten up the starwheel.
You can adjust smoke levels from there.
I had a 98 2wd auto... I did exactly what I suggested, and the transmission was fine. a 94 isn't going to make as much power as a 98
True Forrest. I forgot it was a 94.
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