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I am on my second motorola flip phone now. The first being a Talkabout and now I am fighting with a Timeport model.

The problem is that they will cut off all by themselves.

When these cell-phones are on they are the best working phones I have ever used. They will reach out and find a signal when the other phone's are dead.

Just wondering if I'm the only person having trouble.

Thanks for any replys.

Tim
 
Tim, I have the same problems. I have a Star-Tac and a Timeport tri-mode and both cut out whenever they want regardless of signal strength. I agree that they do well in marginal signal areas, but the loosing of calls is really irritating. The Timeport is worse about loosing calls, but it will get a call out in places that the Star-Tac would not even think about. I also have an Ericson T18d, it fades in and out, but keeps the calls on. Battery life sucks, but at least it works. I have a Nokia that is a couple of years old that works OK, but again no battery life. My first cell was a Motorola flip phone, and to this day it is the best phone I have ever used for connecting and clarity of calls but was almost unusable without a power supply. I think that all of the phones out there now are garbage, the digital signal is too weak and the digital networks are unreliable. You just have to love $100 plus a month for crappy service.
 
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The Timeport will completely turn turn its self off and sometimes it will take 15 minutes before it will come on.

The plan I have with cellular one is only $35 a month for 2 phones and includes 350 minutes shared and 50 state long distance. Plus all the taxes and fee's.

Thanks again, Tim
 
I used to work for Moto, first in infrastructure for 8 years, then in subscriber for 2.



Yes, the analog flipphones Moto produced were pretty good. But Subscriber's GM decided that digital was a passing fad, and chose to ignore that market segment. Then they had to play catch-up, and decided that product quality wasn't all that important.



The first TDMA phone I had worked real well. Then I upgraded to the MicroDigital Lite because I wanted the vibrate feature. . That was a *real* piece of dog dropping. Turn on the vibrate mode, then plug in the cigarette lighter adapter, and it would no longer give *any* indication of incoming calls. And there were numerous other problems with it.



The StarTAC 7797 (dual band, dual-mode TDMA) I got to field test while I was there had many software and hardware bugs. We went through many software loads to get something that worked well enough to be released to the field, and *that* quality wasn't very good. The keypads would fail after six months or so of less-than-moderate use. TDMA 'buzz' is very loud in the earpiece when the transmitter is running at full power. It powers down by itself for no apparent reason. It powercycles for no apparent reason either. It locks up, requiring battery removal to reset.



I did my damnedest to create a comprehensive automated radio test system in Subscriber that would, in essence, prove that every feature, every software subsystem worked as intended. But management didn't care whether the software works. As long as they could make a million calls with a particular set of hardware and software, they would ship. They'd even ship if the quality wasn't there and their numbers started making them look bad.



I quit in March of 2000, and it felt *so* good to stop beating my head against that brick wall. My company contacts tel me nothing has changed, either. "Did the software load compile? Good! Throw it over the wall at the customer. " The only saving grace was that the GSM group actually did try to produce quality products. The CDMA and TDMA groups just didn't care.



Of course, it didn't help at all that *every* customer was a custom set of features and operations. Some CDMA customers wanted their phones to aggressively seek a CDMA signal whenever the phone was in analog mode; the result was that incoming calls from the analog system were missed. Often. Then the customers wanted the phones they received to work *only* on their system. Thus, a Verizon CDMA phone won't work on Sprint, an AT&T phone won't work on Cingular, and vice-versa.



Many of us low-level employees did our best to create good software and good test systems. But management just didn't care. All they cared about was making their numbers look good so they could collect their nice bonuses, even when the rest of us employees got no bonus at all.



Morale was, and still is, in the gutter there. A couple more rounds of management cleansing *might* make a difference. But until Chris Galvin gets off his rear and starts to act on the gross mis-management of Motorola, things just will not turn around. So you will continue to see faulty products in the field,and you will continue to see competitors gaining market share whilst Motorola keeps losing.



This phenomon is, by no means, limited to Motorola. Most large companies have the same problem. Nokia, Erickson, Lucent, Adelphia and many others simply cannot produce good, solid products and services, because management will not let them. Seems they just don't realize that, without customers,there can be no company.



Have I ranted enough yet?



You can check to see if Moto have a newer software release that could fix a number of your problems. Call the 800 number under the battery and ask about a re-flash with the latest code.



Sigh. Just thinking about it stresses me out. Oh, well. On to other things!

Fest3er
 
My Startac did this the first day so I took it back and the salesman said that he's seen alot of them do this. He said the ribbon cable is just too fragile.
 
Makes me wonder!

Thanks for all the replys.

Neal it suprised me that they were made in the U. S.

While in line at the service dept. there were 2 othere people with the same problem. I too have been told its the ribbon cable.

Tim
 
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