Moved into a 2022....

[SBeretz]

Fuel use isn’t really all that different than the ‘05 or ‘18 under most circumstances. I need to get some empty miles on her to see how she does.

For sure. I had an 06/6 Speed Manual and a 14/6 speed manual before this one and they’ve all been fairly close. Close enough to not matter really.


I took delivery of it just before my highest mileage time of the year, and had to do an extra thousand miles on top of that because dad wasn’t able to pickup or return the horses.

It’ll balance out to roughly 15K a year. My goal is to age out and mileage out the 8yr/125K mile max care warranty at the same time, which is 15.6K miles a year and pretty close to my average the last 4-5 years.

 

[Scotty B]

Update on the 2023 I ordered at the end of October. Now, 4 weeks later, dealer gave me build code of "D" and has a VIN assigned to it. Should still be at least 6 months away. Also, they noted the price on my build has already increased over $1100. Fortunately, I have a price lock for when I ordered it. They said used car prices are coming down, but not on diesel trucks.

 

[Turbo Terry]

I got the maxicare 8/60. I normally do 7-8 k a year but have a couple big trips planned in the next couple years then. Will be back to about 4.5 a year after that so I should come close to mileage and time etc. I will be 80 when it runs out and most likely be done driving by then. You never know but you still have to plan a bit I guess.When it goes off maxcare it can be someone else’s problem I guess

 

[AH64ID]

I'm just shy of 9K miles and finally got some empty tanks under her belt, first 3 tanks without any towing since I hit 500 miles. Just over 15 mph hand calc'd for a mixed bag of interstate, rural, and mountain driving in winter. I'm nearly at the bottom of a 4th tank without towing and I suspect I'm high 15.x to low 16.x, which is good considering it has few miles below 0°F, and multiple short trips without getting to operating temp.

It's incredibly quiet cruising at 80-85, even thou it feels like it's looking for a 7th gear with the 3.73's vs the 3.42's. All that aside, 85 mph is just under 2100 rpms and economy isn't noticeable any different than the '18 with 3.42's was, and the motor is likely still breaking in a little (37% towing has helped with break-in).

DEF consumption is holding at 140% of what the '18 used, both towing and empty. 350 mpg DEF towing and 700 mpg DEF empty. I'll likely quite a bit better this tank of DEF since I spent a while with a frozen DEF tank.

As mentioned in another thread, I have the dual 220A alternators and am liking them. The power requirement on a cold start is high enough that even the 440A can't keep up for a few minutes when COLD soaked even with 320A available at idle.

Cold soaked starts below 0°F are seamless. I had it as low as -19°F last week. With the EGR and VGT it warms up pretty quick, but the supplemental cabin heater is noticeable and nice to have.

One other difference I have verified at multiple temps from the '18 is that the EB button does nothing for warmup anymore, which I think is good for the oil (my 05 would soot load the oil anytime the EB was used routinely for warmup). On the '18 the VGT would close a little more with the EB on versus off, but not much. The '22 doesn't change at all, but it runs a fair amount of backpressure on it's own.

 

[Jebruns]

As mentioned in another thread, I have the dual 220A alternators and am liking them. The power requirement on a cold start is high enough that even the 440A can't keep up for a few minutes when COLD soaked even with 320A available at idle.

Glad your rolling on the miles on the new truck. But curious about the above quote. 440A can't keep up with what exactly? And how can you tell?

 

[AH64ID]

Glad your rolling on the miles on the new truck. But curious about the above quote. 440A can't keep up with what exactly? And how can you tell?

The initial power requirement. That’s spread between recharging the batteries from the grid heater, staring, post-start grid heat, supplemental cabin heat, heated seats, fuel heaters, DEF heater, etc.

I look at battery voltage and tell if it’s charging or not, or charging just a little or fully. It’s not as accurate as an ammeter/shut, but it still is indicative.

 

[kthaxton]

Man, I hope you pay attention to driving while analyzing your charging system each time you drive.

 

[AH64ID]

Man, I hope you pay attention to driving while analyzing your charging system each time you drive.

I’m mostly texting and videoing bad drivers, but the dash is occasionally on my scan.

 

[Jebruns]

The initial power requirement. That’s spread between recharging the batteries from the grid heater, staring, post-start grid heat, supplemental cabin heat, heated seats, fuel heaters, DEF heater, etc.

I look at battery voltage and tell if it’s charging or not, or charging just a little or fully. It’s not as accurate as an ammeter/shut, but it still is indicative.

Thanks. But how is this an issue on a 220a system? Does it cause some problems? I've never seen an issue on cold starts on my CTD trucks with the 220a. I always thought the higher output alternator setups were for running a snowplow setup (or something like that), which can have a lot more sustained electrical draw.

 

[AH64ID]

Thanks. But how is this an issue on a 220a system? Does it cause some problems? I've never seen an issue on cold starts on my CTD trucks with the 220a. I always thought the higher output alternator setups were for running a snowplow setup (or something like that), which can have a lot more sustained electrical draw.

No issues, I was simply pointing out how power hungry these trucks are.

 

[Too Tall]

I'm jealous, very nice and I wish I had the 3.73 axle.

 

[Bug Out]

My only "wish i had" on mine is 3:73's. My 4:10's at 72mph = 2K RPM. Other then that, its a towing beast.

 

[AH64ID]

My only "wish i had" on mine is 3:73's. My 4:10's at 72mph = 2K RPM. Other then that, its a towing beast.

I was surprised how little difference the 4.10’s make on GCWR now, only 2K lbs. Gears are 10% lower, but the GCWR is only 5% higher.

 

[Cummins12V98]

My only "wish i had" on mine is 3:73's. My 4:10's at 72mph = 2K RPM. Other then that, its a towing beast.

to do it again I would get 3.42’s instead of 4.10’s. Even towing 35k combined. Tow in 5th at 1,750 same as now in 6th. First is low enough with the AISIN for hill launches.

 

[SnoKing]

0p

to do it again I would get 3.42’s instead of 4.10’s. Even towing 35k combined. Tow in 5th at 1,750 same as now in 6th. First is low enough with the AISIN for hill launches.

Yeah, I loved my 3.42's 1750 at 80 MPH.

 

[AH64ID]

0p


Yeah, I loved my 3.42's 1750 at 80 MPH.

I really liked mine, right up to the point I got a 6.7 with 3.73’s. I wouldn’t get 3.42’s over 3.73’s, as there wasn’t an advantage. Rpms may have been lower at cruise, but the mileage isn’t any different and the added rear wheel torque is noticeable.

 

[Cummins12V98]

I really liked mine, right up to the point I got a 6.7 with 3.73’s. I wouldn’t get 3.42’s over 3.73’s, as there wasn’t an advantage. Rpms may have been lower at cruise, but the mileage isn’t any different and the added rear wheel torque is noticeable.

Doesn't your current truck have more HP/TQ than the 18?

 

[AH64ID]

Doesn't your current truck have more HP/TQ than the 18?

Yes but only when it’s being made, the gearing is always present and the most noticeable at low-mid throttle.

 

[AH64ID]

Well, the truck just had its first birthday. 12K miles this year, which was lower than average because I spent 3 months in Alabama without it.


It’s been a fantastic truck, only a couple of recalls… but I don’t think any vehicle is immune from them this day and age.


Only real mods to the truck have been the Thuren active rate sway bar and boogie bumps, they are fantastic. The rest of the stuff I’ve done is just add-ons that haven’t removed any factory components.


The DPF does appear to be a little more sensitive to around town driving as I’ve had 2 regens based on soot loading, where the ‘18 only ever had 24 hour regens. I did 7 hours of towing the other day at 21K GCW and had a 24 hour regen hit right at the start end. The following start the regen percent showed 5.9%, the lowest I’ve seen following a regen by far.


DEF usage is holding higher that the ‘18, but vastly improving with miles. I’ll do an update after another tank.


I’ll be doing my 12 month service this next week. Stationary regen, oil & filter, fuel filters, air filter, and diff fluids.


Just had the Y43 recall done, thou I’m not optimistic of any noticeable improvements… but hopeful it helps with what has been a sensitive DPF on the ‘22’s.

 

[NIsaacs]

I spent 3 months in Alabama without it.

I’ll be doing my 12 month service this next week. Stationary regen,

FT. Rucker?

What is with the stationary regen?