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Pisses me off that I can' be there again while I'm sitting at home doing nothing, wait I did clean the oven today and shop for clothes
I want to smack that dyno around!
Jim
I want to smack that dyno around!
Jim
Here's a report from a Duramax owner - repost from over in the Dieselstop board...
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Maybe this is the wrong forum for this, but seeing it is a general diesel topic I posted it here.
I was there yesterday for the diesel truck pulls, and I watched a little dyno as well.
I am not ragging on the Powerstroke as I like the Ford truck very much and am thinking strongly about getting one in the next couple years.
But why does the Ford do so poorly in these big diesel pulls? There were about (I did not count them) 35 maybe 40 Ford Powerstroke equipped trucks there. With about 10-12 Duramax and the rest of 172 trucks were Cummins (No big surprise there) The top 25 from the morning pull was to make the main event in the evening.
1 Ford made it and 6 or 7 Duramax. My point is, the Fords nearly all seamed to almost flow down the track. They sounded better and had a real nice pull. But almost every time they fell on there face 20-40 feet before all the other trucks were.
The one that made the main event ended up 6th or 7th with the Cummins taking all the money spots. The top 21 places were within 25 feet of the winner. All of the duramax trucks finished below that one Ford but within a few inches to maybe 10 feet.
I think mtomac was 2 feet behind that Powerstroke. It was a nice truck. And must have been putting down some real good power. He was running 6 38" mudders with I'd guess 10" lift kit.
The ATS Duramax with all there money was only able to beat mtomac by a foot or so.
But to get back to my question. What is the problem? I know super350 claims no Duramax can beat a Powerstroke, I think most of us know that not to be the case. But putting that aside. It can not all be driver. And some of them had good tires. As I stated before, most of the Powerstrokes sounded real smooth.
There was this one Cummins Dodge that sounded near stock and the tires was more for a Sunday drive then a truck pull, He ended up in the money, talk about a sleeper.
I did notice one 6. 0L He did not make the cut, but it was very strong running.
When all was said and done, there were more then 20 Cummins broke down, 5 Powerstrokes, and 2 Duramax. So with the number of total entries for each brand that is about right for break downs. Both Duramax trucks that broke ended up with the pinky size tie-rod bending.
Mike Tomac did break, but it was at the end of his morning pull, and it was hitch related, a little welding and all was good, also one of the Duramax trucks had the tie-rod straightened and welded for the main event.
One other thing, there were many Cummins that pulled that were brought in on trailers. Not that it takes away what they can do, Just that is all they are for while most if not all the Powerstroke and Duramax are daily drivers. And in several cases it was Powerstroke and Duramax bringing them Cummins in.
Sorry if this in the wrong forum.
ON EDIT: The dyno proved to much for Powerstroke and Duramax. Well not really but the top numbers were Dodge (IE: Cummins) fuel only top for Cummins was 692, Powerstroke 7. 3 441, and Duramax 503. On the Bottle Cummins a little over 700, There were no 7. 3 in this one, and Duramax at 616. I do not know the torque of any of them, However I do know that there were several Cummins and at least 2 Duramax with over 1100# on the bottle.
There were dozens more run on the dyno after I left and they are running again today.
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Maybe this is the wrong forum for this, but seeing it is a general diesel topic I posted it here.
I was there yesterday for the diesel truck pulls, and I watched a little dyno as well.
I am not ragging on the Powerstroke as I like the Ford truck very much and am thinking strongly about getting one in the next couple years.
But why does the Ford do so poorly in these big diesel pulls? There were about (I did not count them) 35 maybe 40 Ford Powerstroke equipped trucks there. With about 10-12 Duramax and the rest of 172 trucks were Cummins (No big surprise there) The top 25 from the morning pull was to make the main event in the evening.
1 Ford made it and 6 or 7 Duramax. My point is, the Fords nearly all seamed to almost flow down the track. They sounded better and had a real nice pull. But almost every time they fell on there face 20-40 feet before all the other trucks were.
The one that made the main event ended up 6th or 7th with the Cummins taking all the money spots. The top 21 places were within 25 feet of the winner. All of the duramax trucks finished below that one Ford but within a few inches to maybe 10 feet.
I think mtomac was 2 feet behind that Powerstroke. It was a nice truck. And must have been putting down some real good power. He was running 6 38" mudders with I'd guess 10" lift kit.
The ATS Duramax with all there money was only able to beat mtomac by a foot or so.
But to get back to my question. What is the problem? I know super350 claims no Duramax can beat a Powerstroke, I think most of us know that not to be the case. But putting that aside. It can not all be driver. And some of them had good tires. As I stated before, most of the Powerstrokes sounded real smooth.
There was this one Cummins Dodge that sounded near stock and the tires was more for a Sunday drive then a truck pull, He ended up in the money, talk about a sleeper.
I did notice one 6. 0L He did not make the cut, but it was very strong running.
When all was said and done, there were more then 20 Cummins broke down, 5 Powerstrokes, and 2 Duramax. So with the number of total entries for each brand that is about right for break downs. Both Duramax trucks that broke ended up with the pinky size tie-rod bending.
Mike Tomac did break, but it was at the end of his morning pull, and it was hitch related, a little welding and all was good, also one of the Duramax trucks had the tie-rod straightened and welded for the main event.
One other thing, there were many Cummins that pulled that were brought in on trailers. Not that it takes away what they can do, Just that is all they are for while most if not all the Powerstroke and Duramax are daily drivers. And in several cases it was Powerstroke and Duramax bringing them Cummins in.
Sorry if this in the wrong forum.
ON EDIT: The dyno proved to much for Powerstroke and Duramax. Well not really but the top numbers were Dodge (IE: Cummins) fuel only top for Cummins was 692, Powerstroke 7. 3 441, and Duramax 503. On the Bottle Cummins a little over 700, There were no 7. 3 in this one, and Duramax at 616. I do not know the torque of any of them, However I do know that there were several Cummins and at least 2 Duramax with over 1100# on the bottle.
There were dozens more run on the dyno after I left and they are running again today.
ME TOO! Sigh...
Unlimited: 1st Shied truck
2nd Van Haisley
3rd Eric Stacey EEP
Pro- Street: 1st Ryan Milby EEP
2nd Dave Radsirez Smokindiesel.com
3rd Sled Puller
Street: 1st Terry Coppas Haisley
I can't remember the next two.
As far as hauling the trucks in, with the way the track was hooking I bet more people wish they brought trailers. It is a lot nicer to haul the broken truck home than work on it all night to be able to get home. I drove mine in and out and made the top 25, not sure where from there, wish I had brought my little tires though. Dean
2nd Van Haisley
3rd Eric Stacey EEP
Pro- Street: 1st Ryan Milby EEP
2nd Dave Radsirez Smokindiesel.com
3rd Sled Puller
Street: 1st Terry Coppas Haisley
I can't remember the next two.
As far as hauling the trucks in, with the way the track was hooking I bet more people wish they brought trailers. It is a lot nicer to haul the broken truck home than work on it all night to be able to get home. I drove mine in and out and made the top 25, not sure where from there, wish I had brought my little tires though. Dean
ON EDIT: The dyno proved to much for Powerstroke and Duramax. Well not really but the top numbers were Dodge (IE: Cummins) fuel only top for Cummins was 692, Powerstroke 7. 3 441, and Duramax 503. On the Bottle Cummins a little over 700, There were no 7. 3 in this one, and Duramax at 616. I do not know the torque of any of them, However I do know that there were several Cummins and at least 2 Duramax with over 1100# on the bottle.
That's it for HP, now I'm even more upset.
Jim
That's it for HP, now I'm even more upset.
Jim
My pullin truck isn't diesel, it is street legal and I drive it on the street, BUT I HAUL IT TO EVERY PULL. That way I can get home, get to hear the nice stereo, and A/C. Its enough work just setting the truck up, throwing weights etc. I don't want to fix it to get home. SHEESH! Even when we pull my wife's bone stock truck, it gets hauled to the pull.
sorry for venting guys.
When is shied's truck show? I will be at muncie next year, just to spectate. Sounds like a great time.
Michael
sorry for venting guys.
When is shied's truck show? I will be at muncie next year, just to spectate. Sounds like a great time.
Michael
Highest HP at the Event went to Opie from WA at 738hp and he maxed out the dyno at 1200lbs of torque after pulling 18000lbs all the way to Muncie. Jim it's to bad you and Jetpilot didn't make it, then we could have had a DTT truck in the 700hp level and 2 in the 800hp level.
I would also like to thank Todd Berry from Florida for letting me make some passes in his truck. A 1998. 5 dodge with 5" of lift and 37" tires and went 12. 85, and 12. 87 at 105mph on #2 diesel. Unfortunately I couldn't run in eliminations due to having a plane to catch. Todd that truck is flat out awesome. For those wondering Relentless Diesel in Texas built it just before this show, it was twins, injector, DTT trans.
Snowman was the fastest in the 1/4 time 3. 46seconds.
Then blew a hose so he couldn't back it up.
Gene, how come none of your 1000hp trucks didn't dyno?
I would also like to thank Todd Berry from Florida for letting me make some passes in his truck. A 1998. 5 dodge with 5" of lift and 37" tires and went 12. 85, and 12. 87 at 105mph on #2 diesel. Unfortunately I couldn't run in eliminations due to having a plane to catch. Todd that truck is flat out awesome. For those wondering Relentless Diesel in Texas built it just before this show, it was twins, injector, DTT trans.
Snowman was the fastest in the 1/4 time 3. 46seconds.
Then blew a hose so he couldn't back it up. Gene, how come none of your 1000hp trucks didn't dyno?
Stefan,
You can add another DTT truck to the 700 horse list as i just made 700. 2 horse & 1200 + torque & that was with a blown charge hose on my big turbo & at only 52 psi. I fixed the hose but didnt have time to strap it down again & make another run. That was with a little sniff of n20. She did 528 on just pump & injectors & 631 with the box on kill. I think it has more in it now that i can build some boost. This transmission just says give me some more
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Kurt
You can add another DTT truck to the 700 horse list as i just made 700. 2 horse & 1200 + torque & that was with a blown charge hose on my big turbo & at only 52 psi. I fixed the hose but didnt have time to strap it down again & make another run. That was with a little sniff of n20. She did 528 on just pump & injectors & 631 with the box on kill. I think it has more in it now that i can build some boost. This transmission just says give me some more
. Kurt
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Jim it's to bad you and Jetpilot didn't make it, then we could have had a DTT truck in the 700hp level and 2 in the 800hp level.
It sure would have been nice to lay down some numbers on both coast's, not my time! Got something else in the plans though, hopefully work will let it happen, My baby is getting real worn out.
I like the fact the Steve brought the west coast to the east
Jim
It sure would have been nice to lay down some numbers on both coast's, not my time! Got something else in the plans though, hopefully work will let it happen, My baby is getting real worn out.
I like the fact the Steve brought the west coast to the east
Jim
Why don't you ask them?
How come big bad Opie couldn't move the sled?
"Gene, how come none of your 1000hp trucks didn't dyno?
They wuz out partying with the Abominal Snowman and the Loch Ness monster - and the tooth fairy... 
West Coast RULES!
They wuz out partying with the Abominal Snowman and the Loch Ness monster - and the tooth fairy...
West Coast RULES!
Not to start anything, but it was nice of all y'all to come over from the west side to enlarge our numbers at the event. I think the numbers were great both days. And if you think 692 is not good numbers on # 2. Jim, the only way to put us in the back of the bus , is to come over and put it on the dyno and do it. I just know I could have beat Schieds truck, I just forgot to sign up.
And as far a 1000HP trucks, on # 2 , I have not seen them as of yet. To make power and use it, is the key. 692 usable is really unreal power. Just remember , a few years back 350 hp and 14 seconds was just fast. Now brackett racers break out at 12 sec. In anybodys book , that's fast.
. . Preston. .
And as far a 1000HP trucks, on # 2 , I have not seen them as of yet. To make power and use it, is the key. 692 usable is really unreal power. Just remember , a few years back 350 hp and 14 seconds was just fast. Now brackett racers break out at 12 sec. In anybodys book , that's fast.
. . Preston. .
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