My ATS transmission thread. 2 hours and 16 posts later......

[Straight6Jeff]

My tool box locked up last night, and I lost the key this morning. I guess the triple lock would have put me in more of a bind. Maybe the smart controller will help me to decide when to lock the tool box. I wonder what the tool drop was after the locking? I know I heard a breaker bar hit the bottom. Good thing I wasn't at an idle, the stall speed might have been reached when the bottle of DFA shifted into warp speed.



Hmm, Have to try it.

 

[JConley]

Pretty good one Straight 6

 

[JR2]

Originally posted by ronsram1999

Since this is a *****ing thread,



Every thread that I have read that has taken a big bad dump has come from a DTT comment.



You never see a thread where BD slams ATS.

You never see a thread where ATS slams BD.

You never see a Thread where BD slams suncoast.

You never see a thread where ATS slams suncoast.

You never see a thread where suncoast slams BD.

You never see a thread where suncoast slams ATS.

You never see a thread where suncoast slams goerend brothers.

You never see a thread where goerend brothers slam BD.

You never see a thread where goerend brothers slam suncoast.

You never see a thread where goerend brothers slam ATS.

You never see a thread where BD slams goerend brothers.

You never see a thread where ATS slams goerend brothers.



I can not read a thread without DTT slaming someone or something.



I was on the DTT band wagon at one point in time, MAN am I glad I fell off before I ordered the DTT cheerleading uniform.



Ron

Thats true. You never see anyone that WORKs for ATS slammin any one, but I am starting to see the ATS mob pound on DTT or anything DTT related.

Lets just agree to disagree and get over this huge :-{} contest we all seem to have with auto trannies. It is doning nothing but hurting the BB.

I remember a time on this BB when if some one asked about auto trannies folks would actually try to help them and maybe point them in the direction of one of the experienced members/vendors out there. Now when someone asks about trannies all the MOB's jump on and start a huge :-{} contest. (how do you think that looks to a new member??) Back then we still had some members around that wanted to help not just swell there post counts with :-{} . Most of those guys can be found on the other Diesel boards now and are still just as helpful as they ever were. The only loosers in the transmission wars are the members of TDR.



By the way, Yes I have DTT parts in my truck. I paid for them, I like them. I will continue to tell members about my DTT experience because it was (and still is) a positive experience

 

[GLASMITHS]

I agree with JR2

I also have to agree that it is fact , when you fall off the wagon there could be some major damage done. In these two cases it is very apparent

 

[Mopar-muscle]

Originally posted by ronsram1999

Since this is a *****ing thread,



Every thread that I have read that has taken a big bad dump has come from a DTT comment.



You never see a thread where BD slams ATS.

You never see a thread where ATS slams BD.

You never see a Thread where BD slams suncoast.

You never see a thread where ATS slams suncoast.

You never see a thread where suncoast slams BD.

You never see a thread where suncoast slams ATS.

You never see a thread where suncoast slams goerend brothers.

You never see a thread where goerend brothers slam BD.

You never see a thread where goerend brothers slam suncoast.

You never see a thread where goerend brothers slam ATS.

You never see a thread where BD slams goerend brothers.

You never see a thread where ATS slams goerend brothers.



I can not read a thread without DTT slaming someone or something.



I was on the DTT band wagon at one point in time, MAN am I glad I fell off before I ordered the DTT cheerleading uniform.



Ron

and whenever we see you post you are slamming DTT .



also you need to get it straight , its customers of DTT that are doing the talking , DTT does no longer post , except for stephan , and he does not slam other companies .



:-{}

 

[Mopar-muscle]

Originally posted by Mark_Kendrick

So what's the stall like? the DTT fluid coupling is known to be excellent.

REAL stall testing is a place few actually tread . its a place where parts break , cryo parts included , with cryo parts it holds a hair longer ...



i've been there and i don't want to be there anytime to soon .



and Kat is dead on , the design of the non race convertor is so the TC will NOT lock unless the engine speed is within 150rpm of the trans input speed , no matter what you are doing or how you are doing it it will not lock till the 2 are close to equal , with a 93 i barely see the tach move on lockup . this is what gives the lockup clutch a long life , big rpm drops are accompied with slippage and heat , this is why some have big heavy front covers , to absorb the heat . big rpm drops are the reason the front covers warp .



if the TC clucth did not slip when applying things inside the trans WILL break .

 

[LSMITH]

Originally posted by Mopar-muscle





[and Kat is dead on , the design of the non race convertor is so the TC will NOT lock unless the engine speed is within 150rpm of the trans input speed , no matter what you are doing or how you are doing it it will not lock till the 2 are close to equal , with a 93 i barely see the tach move on lockup .

Mopar, how does this happen without some sort of controller on the transmission? If the stock PCM is being used it does not care what the differential is between the engine speed and the trans input shaft speed. I am very curious to how this is done.





If I am wrong about the 125 RPM in all cases I will sincerely apologize, I would just like to know how this is accomplished.

 

[StakeMan]

Thats true. You never see anyone that WORKs for ATS slammin any one, but I am starting to see the ATS mob pound on DTT or anything DTT related.

I have never slammed anybody for having or thinking about DTT. It just seems that everytime someone posts a good experience with another auto transmission vendor, someone has to make a comment thats starts the :-{} . There is no need for that. It just continues to drag the TDR down. Good vendors won't post here anymore and I can understand why.

 

[BigYellowIron]

Originally posted by ronsram1999

Since this is a *****ing thread,



Every thread that I have read that has taken a big bad dump has come from a DTT comment.



You never see a thread where BD slams ATS.

You never see a thread where ATS slams BD.

You never see a Thread where BD slams suncoast.

You never see a thread where ATS slams suncoast.

You never see a thread where suncoast slams BD.

You never see a thread where suncoast slams ATS.

You never see a thread where suncoast slams goerend brothers.

You never see a thread where goerend brothers slam BD.

You never see a thread where goerend brothers slam suncoast.

You never see a thread where goerend brothers slam ATS.

You never see a thread where BD slams goerend brothers.

You never see a thread where ATS slams goerend brothers.



I can not read a thread without DTT slaming someone or something.



I was on the DTT band wagon at one point in time, MAN am I glad I fell off before I ordered the DTT cheerleading uniform.



Ron

Could not be more right!!!

 

[Doc Tinker]

Originally posted by illflem

The reason you guys have so much trouble with your stock trannies is 'cuz you change the fluid too much. 567k on my stock AT with the factory fill.

At the limo company, we changed the atf when the transmission blew, usually after 200,000 miles of hard driving. We also changed the oil at 10,000 or 20,000 or 30,000 miles depending on whether we noticed that it reached the due mileage. These were Dodge gasoline powered vans. Some of them were lp conversions.



I've long been a believer that if you have a transmission that's long over due for a change, that it's better not to change it because they always seem to have trouble once you do change it.



Long live the stick shift (except Steve's of coarse )



Doc

 

[M Evan]

Don't want to add the gas to the fire, but look to me like lot of people need to assure themself all the time, for choices they made.

M

 

[LSMITH]

Originally posted by M Evan

Don't want to add the gas to the fire, but look to me like lot of people need to assure themself all the time, for choices they made.

M

DING DING DING!!!!!!! We have a winner!!!! That is EXACTLY what is going on.

 

[GLASMITHS]

Talk about baiting?



My rpm drop is the same. Unloaded in 3rd lock-up about 125, so small I can't really tell and watch the traffic. Yeasterday at 25k 12% grade 3rd locked to unlock, 125rpm. So just get over it. yeah, the smart controller may be the guilty party, but so what. Compare apples to apples next time.

 

[Strick-9]

LSMITH,



If we told you how it worked, we'd have to kill ya.



That's propietary info. As far as I know, only 2 people know why the TC's work the way they do. Well, maybe 2. 5 now.



And I'm not one of them.



But if you figure it out, I'll give you a cookie.



-Chris

 

[Cummins Corvette]

Originally posted by Straight6Jeff

My tool box locked up last night, and I lost the key this morning. I guess the triple lock would have put me in more of a bind. Maybe the smart controller will help me to decide when to lock the tool box. I wonder what the tool drop was after the locking? I know I heard a breaker bar hit the bottom. Good thing I wasn't at an idle, the stall speed might have been reached when the bottle of DFA shifted into warp speed.



Hmm, Have to try it.

My mom just asked me if I was ok because I was laughing so much!! That made my day Jeff, Thanks!!

Chris

 

[Extreme1]

OH YEAH?!?!?

Originally posted by GLASMITHS

My rpm drop is the same. Unloaded in 3rd lock-up about 125, so small I can't really tell and watch the traffic. Yeasterday at 25k 12% grade 3rd locked to unlock, 125rpm.

Well, *******MY******* RPM actually increases 250 RPM when *******MY******* TC locks!:-{}



Talk about baiting!!! :-laf :-laf



This is one of the better trans threads I've seen in a while!Oo.

 

[fest3er]

Originally posted by KatDiesel
When I see my transmission lock up its never more then 125rpm... I have said several times it won't lock up under WOT, and it won't generally lock up until I let off. ...

Ah. Bill believes in fluid coupling under power. Doesn't the DTT converter unlock under ... light to moderate acceleration? If so, this *could* explain Kat's observation that he never sees more than 125 RPM drop when the clutch engages.

Just a thought,
N

 

[JR2]

I just don't get the nit picking about at how many RPM's this happens at or if the whole thing is going to explode when it shifts locked to locked. Here are the important things to know about my DTT transmission. It works... . My truck goes like HE double L. It smokes like crazy but that is the huge injectors and the setting I have my boxes on. It is faster than a Mustang GT because I blew him away. . its faster than a older Ford Lightening because he was in my smoke cloud too. I don't tow so who know how it will do towing 10K lbs. When I bought it I told Bill K that I was going to put 275 injectors in and use my Power Edge Box so that is what he set it up for. Now I have DD3's, an EZ and PE and about 100 more HP and god knows how much torque than what it was set up for. Guess what... it still works fine. DTT builds good stuff.



Here is all I have to say about tranys and transmission compaines:



DTT is a fine company and makes good parts and has gone way out of there way to make sure I am happy.

ATS is probably a fine company, from what I have read they treat there customers very well. There transmission parts seem to be holding up just fine. I have never had any dealing with ATS so this is just my hearsay. I have no need to contact them to find out because right now my transmission is A-Okay.



This BB is getting completly out of hand, all the :-{} and baiting and MOB mentality is killing it. When I am at work I spend at least 4 hours a day on here, all I see are one line replies to questions that are ment to bait. I see people that have no practical experience bombing telling guys what to do to there trucks. I am just about fed up and I think it might be time to leave the ranks of this all show and no go board and join the old timers elsewhere.



Thats it, I am out, Peace.

 

[Stefan Kondolay]

It will unlock under hard acceleration, not light to moderate. Hope this helps clear that up.

 

[Stefan Kondolay]

John,



You got one hell of ajob to be able to spend 4 hours a day. Any openings.