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My fuel mileage over 65 mph used to suck, now it's better at 85 mph than at 60.



I recently went on a long road trip, and at $3. 50/gal, I dreaded it. I have always had to drive my truck under 65 or my mileage went way down. So I started out my trip from Salt Lake to LA. I kept my speed at 64-65. Filled up in Vegas 377 miles, took 21. 7 gallons only 17. 4 mpg. From there to LA I went 62-62 mph, filled up 249 miles took 14. 1 gal. still only 17. 6 mpg. The whole time my truck mileage gage read between 18. 8-19. 4.



So on the way home, I left late, and had to hurry, so I thought who cares, and I drove appx 80-81 mph, expecting horrible mileage, because in the past when I went this fast I would get around 15mpg. I noticed my mileage gage was reading 20-20. 5 mpg. Filled in Mesquite 335 miles took 18. 4 gal that's 18. 2 mpg. I thought there had to be some error. I bumped my speed to 85-90 until home, there are a lot of uphill points from Mesquite to Salt Lake. Filled up at home 318 miles 17. 2 gal or 18. 5 mpg. I didn't know why, but i was home 2 hrs sooner than I would have been and got the best mileage this truck ever had, I was insanely happy.



Next day I called some friends to tell and ask, no one had a clue why. Finally I called Brett over at Diesel power source, he said it's because of the twin turbos he'd put on, and that a lot of his customers are reporting the same thing, at higher speeds they become much more effecient than a single turbo, because the big turbo is working as well. He went into a bunch of math curve talk, heat transfer, yada, yada, to explain, way over my head. Apparently he understood the reason, I didn't completely, he is amazing to talk to. Whatever it does it works, the harder I worked the turbos, the better mileage I got. No more long slow road trips for me. The other thing he told me was that when towing, when the twins are working harder anyway, so going higher speeds when towing will see an even better impact on the mileage over a single turbo.
 
MILEAGE MIRACLE:

IMO there are three kinds of people, the third being one who gives you a long interesting story without nearly enough tech. info.
 
I just drove 800 miles to florida today. I drove @ 60 mph all the way, on cruise. I got nearly 25 mpgs. on the way down. no joke!.



Now, for the normal drill... I usually go about 75 or so and experience economy in the 17ish range.



I did a run a few weeks ago and it was hot. hot hot. I drove at an average of 100 mph to a CAT dealer. The truck did better at those speeds than at 75-80. Usually the sps66 is turning 4-5 psi at 75. @ 100, the psi is like 10-15 psi and i think it makes the truck more efficient at those boost pressures and speeds.



BTW, I had it up to 130 racing a porsche. I did the key off trick to override the speed governor and it really worked. I kept up with him too. His expression was priceless! I also noticed that after the draining rail, it then recovers and maintains pressure at those speeds just fine.
 
Funny thing is Iv also driven the road that the person who started this thread and hes correct.

After Mesquite, if your not doing at least 80, after Virgin Gorge, you get run over.
 
I guess I'm a little confused. These trucks are known for getting better than avergae fuel economy when compared to the other diesel brands however Dodge still hasn't been able to repeal the laws of physics and thus my confusion. I've always noted that anything above 65 mph in my trucks nets a decrease in mileage, higher than 70 mph and mileage drops off significantly. I've observed this on many an occassions. Recently due to ($$$$) fuel prices I've purposely driven at 55 mph, max. My current calculated mileage is 20. 8 mpg, winter blend. Three weeks ago my calculated mileage was 18. 7 mpg, before winter blend but driving at the speed limit or above.

Wanna sell your truck???
 
I just bought a 2007 5. 9 3500 so I was reading these threads but this post regards my '99 24 valve. I usually averaged 20-21 mpg locally, mostly rural. Was running an Edge EZ on lowest setting, 150hp formula 1 sticks, Phat shaft 62 intake and exhaust. I had occasion to make a trip from northern VA to the far edge of Tennessee. On the way down I averaged about the same running 65-70 mph unloaded with myself and GF. On the way back it was a straight shot from Nashville home and we were in a hurry. While there I had also picked up a 1500lb vertical mill and it was in the bed. Coming back we ran with traffic and I set the CC at 85-90 and with 33 inch tires, 3. 55 gearing and a massive ARB bumper I averaged 27 mpg(900 miles). I ran the numbers myself when we got home because I was amazed and the results were verified. The truck computer said 29mpg.
 
I have a 98. 5 24v 4x4 dually and am having a hard time accepting some of these fuel claims. In three years, my truck has never done better than 15. 5 mpg running 65 mph. I run the tires at 80 psi. My profile is available to be seen.

Two months ago, a new TQ & VB was installed, RV275s and boost increased to 29#. I made a trip from San Diego to Mesa at 61 mph & 2100-2125 rpm on purpose w/CC trying to get the best. boost ran about 4-5 psi on the level, no wind. EGTs about 700 depending on up/dn hills. The digital TRAX fuel gauge said I did the trip on 20 gallons for 410 miles (apprx 20 mpg). That is no where near the 20+ to 29+ numbers I am reading about here. Fuel gauges lie, especially off the top end of the tank. I started out with 85 gallons, TRAX said 65 remained. Did it? Don't know, still haven't filled the tank since then.

The truck has 695 miles on the trip meter now, remaining fuel is 37/38 gallons. The digital TRAX gauge is flipping back and forth. I usually go with the low number. So that is 85-37 or 48 gallons consumed over the 695 miles. That equates to 14. 5 mpg overall average. The last 300 miles have been stop 'n go metro driving at mostly 45 mph. That will kill any fuel economy hopes. But still, I am talking about an overall trip of about 700 miles and it used about 48 gallons of fuel. That trip from San Diego was running pretty much empty, a car hauler 16' trailer with nothing on it. In town, empty.

So, anyone want to try and explain why the huge difference between a "real world" experience and the stories I am reading here? I am not into bragging rights and I don't have any ego edges to sharpen up.

Wind resistance goes up by the square of your speed. Going faster will consume more fuel. That is a law of physics. The following is from the Cummins whitepaper.

Rock-Solid Rules

* Every 2% reduction in aerodynamic drag results in approximately 1% improvement in fuel economy. (We all pretty much have the same wind profiles so wipe this one out. )

* Above 55 mph, each 1 mph increase in vehicle speed decreases fuel economy by 0. 1 MPG.

* Worn tires provide up to 7% better fuel economy than new tires. ( My tires have about 8,000 miles on them. )

* Used lug drive tires can get up to 0. 4 MPG better fuel economy than new lug tires.

* Ribbed tires on the drive axles provide 2-4% better fuel economy than lugged tires. ( Michelin LTX. )

* Every 10 psi that a truck's tires are under inflated reduces fuel economy by 1%.

* The break-in period for tires is between 35,000 and 50,000 miles.

* Tires make biggest difference in MPG below 50 mph; aerodynamics is the most important factor over 50 mph.

* The most efficient drivers get about 30% better fuel economy than the least efficient drivers. (I did "everything right" hopefully. You did too I assume?)

* Idle time is costly. Every hour of idle time in a long-haul operation can decrease fuel economy by 1% because you're burning fuel and not moving. (I don't let my truck idle)

Maybe the wheel bearings, 3rd member, etc on my truck are set up too tight. New brakes on front, rears are 50% down. I don't know what's going on here. But numbers that high are not in my future.
 
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My mileage died when I installed my HTT. Went from 22 to 16. You guys are making me jealous when your talking 20+ mpg.
 
Ah hah!!

... so thats how people haul stuff for next to nothing, their trucks get so much better mileage then mine could ever hope too!:D
 
I think that the 55mph is a rule of thumb , does not include all aspects of an individual test variables one for just the Cummins in P/Us , may be the the best efficiently of the way 1 truck is set up , it can get better millage at higher than 55 , but , it would seem that going as high as 85 mpgs is beyond seems hard to accept .
 
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