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Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) missing out 2000 rpms

Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) trans guage question

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On the morning of 1-14 I noticed a leak under my truck. After opening the hood I noticed the entire engine compartment had been lubed with oil. The leak was located at the front of #1 cylinder. I called cummings for a price on a head gasket. ($100. 00) But that would of been too cheap and I have always wanted to have the head oringed. So I called PDR up and spoke to Al and ordered a Stage 2 head oringed with associated gaskets. The Stage 2 head was 1500, oringing it was 200, gaskets where 132. 67, freight was 125, and there is a core charge of 750. The total was 2707. 67 which I paid via credit card. Four days later it was delivered to my driveway return address was from ADP DISTRIBUTORS INC. I told Al I wanted to oring the block as well and he gave me Brandons phone number as he has a $1700 oring tool. After talking with Brandon then again with Al and reading others experiences with copper gaskets on TDR I decided to just get the truck back on the road with a 3804882 head gasket for the time being. After getting the core head dropped off at PDR. (Thank you Bob W. ) I found out that the core has to pass magnaflux prior to getting the 750 deposit back. The core head had 58k miles on it. But never the less I was told from Mark at PDR that it failed magnaflux.

The entire project took me 22 wrenching/cleaning hours, eight cans of brake clean, three cans of carb and choke cleaner and a case of beer to complete. (But then again I wasn't in a race nor did I want to have to do it again. ) I used a engine lift for the 170 pound head and to line up the exhaust manifold. (Thank you Dave M. )There is a coolant cap on the front of the head that has to be removed from the core that requires a 10 mm allen wrench. When removing this cap I had to use penetrating oil and a breaker bar said the following,"By the power of Grayskull!" The rest was a straight forward stuff. (Thank goodness the top of the cylinder block was square. ) With the exception of the torque in the book the last torq is suppose to be 1/4 turn in sequence. I went with 120'lbs in sequence which turned out to only be about a 1/5 turn. But when I varified the torq a few of the head bolts turned so if nothing else seems to me that torq would be more uniform this way. Not to mention every mechanics version of 1/4 in an engine compartment may varey some.

The turbo spool up seems faster and the engine torquier at lower rpms kinda like a 12v. The economy has gone up 1 mile per gal according to the computer. After running through a tank of fuel I went to see Lenny at Dynomite diesel in Monroe for dyno. Horsepower was 27 lower and the torque was 9. 5 higher than the last time I ran at Shellys in Spokane. Which probably just confirms that the dynos measure a little different. Also the egts seem to be running between 100-200 degrees lower.

Was this change in performance worth 2707. 67 to me? If I had to do it again I would of done it a differently. I wouldn't wait for the gasket to of blown and I would have sent my exsisting head out for machining/oringing.



Opie
 
I understand your pain;) I STILL! have my head off from getting it o-ringed by Nowel and Willyslover that stoped by my place to do it. I've ported many heads so I'm doing that myself. I've decided to paint a few things and change the cam and pump while it was down so this is getting time consuming. Expensive! I hear ya,sometimes I wonder about what I'm doing:rolleyes:



John
 
John,



After reading post above mass questions came to mind.



The discription of your truck mentions oring head and block. What size orings are you going with? Are you going with a reciever groove on the block? Are you going to use a . 020 copper gasket? If so how do you plan to anneal it and what type of sealant are you going to use?

You mention that your porting the heads yourself. Are you going to do both the intake and exhaust? Which cam are you going to go with? And lastly, which pump are you referring to? The pick- up or the injector.



One of the things that I did was blow out the injector lines with cleaner. Which was a good thing as #6 had some stuff that blew out of it. Anyway not trying to load you down with questions but... There are alot of other members considering the upgrades you are doing and it may help us out with the learning curve.

Thanx,

Opie
 
The O-rings are two grooves holding 0. 041 gauge stainless wire, no reciever groove,I did it this way to try and clamp the copper gasket from both directions. The gasket is . 080 thick, you dont wont the gasket to be too soft=Annealing, with the boost that we run the head is going to walk all over the cylinder deck and if your copper gasket is too soft its going to damage the gasket. As to posting I'm doing the exhaust completely and the intake bowl area under the valve, again with the boost that we run you dont need to do the whole intake runner, not to mention you cant get to it, unless you extrude hone.

The cam is a Diesel Dynamics cam as so is the modified VP-44 pump. I'm also changing the intake and exhaust valves= better design and material.



John
 
John,

Thanks for the quick reply. Seems that the issue I hear about the most when useing copper gaskets is a waterjacket leaking or pressurizing the coolant system. Which is why I was inquiring about what sealants you are useing. I look forward to reading about your findings with the new cam and pump. Are you by any chance planning on attending May Madness in Vegas this year?



Opie
 
Originally posted by Opz01

Are you by any chance planning on attending May Madness in Vegas this year?



Yes he'll be there... ... we use his truck & trailer to tow mine out, makes the 24 hour drive more manageable. Not to mention cheaper (fuel) and or any tickets we might have acquired racing each other.
 
Eric,



Now the cats out of the bag! I was wondering how your truck could only have 42k on it when you got the reflash. If all goes well I look forward to meeting ya both... :D



Opie
 
The gasket I'm using is from Don M, it has a rubber coating on it with a sealing type of gasket under that. The problem with the coolant and oil passages leaking is from the compression getting by the O-ring's and then blowing out the side and taking the coolant and oil passages out with it too. Yes I'm hauling out katdiesel= lame a**:rolleyes: :D so I hope to meet you out there.



John
 
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