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Since we plan on doing a lot of dry camping when we retire, I bought our 2004 Newmar Mountain Aire fifth wheel with that in mind. Dual pane windows, Fantastic Vents, an inverter for the entertainment center, dual six volt batteries and solar panel and generator prep packages were on the option list with “boondocking” in mind.



Over the winter I spend a lot of time researching and pricing the remaining components that I would need. To complete the package I bought an additional four 6-volt batteries, all the cables, three 110 watt solar panels with a 40 amp charge controller, a 1750 watt inverter (since the entertainment center inverter is only rated at 400 watts) and a transfer switch. I already had a Cruising Equipment battery management system from my last trailer. This gives readouts of amp hours used, voltage and current readings as well as a ton of other useful information necessary to stay independent from the power lines.



My first project was the installation of the panels on the roof. It took some time to measure and plan everything so that everything would fit on the roof properly. I mounted the panels as shown in the photo being careful to seal the mounting brackets with Dicor self levelling sealant to prevent any leaks. I soldered all the connections between the panels and the trailer’s solar wiring to insure trouble-free installation. The three Shell Solar panels are each rated at 110 watts and will produce over 6 amps each at over 17 volts. They were mounted flat to the roof using the brackets provided with the kits.



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The UV resistant wires were run through a water proof connector through the solar wiring access panel on the roof. Again generous use of sealant will prevent water leaks down the road. The solar wiring from the roof terminates in the large compartment under the bathroom where there is ample room to install the Trace Engineering C-40 charge controller which is completely user adjustable for different battery types and conditions. From the charge controller, the Newmar factory continued the 8 gauge solar wiring through the underbelly to the sliding battery tray at the rear of the trailer.



The sliding tray is designed to carry the spare tire and two 6-volt batteries. Since I took the trailer to the local hitch shop for a hitch receiver to accommodate my bike carrier, I had the shop weld trays for the additional four 6-volt batteries I would be carrying. The spare tire went into the back of the pickup. I also added a plywood panel to mount the inverter fuse. The batteries were connected in three groups of two to provide 12 volts and 675 amp hours of capacity. The solar wiring is protected with a 30 amp fuse. The inverter wiring consists of heavy 2 gauge cable and was routed to the electrical compartment which would house the remaining components. The Xantrex 1750 watt inverter is protected by a 200 amp fuse in the battery compartment and a remote switch is provided for turning the unit on and off from inside the coach. The ground circuit for the entire 12 volt system is routed through a 500 amp shunt which provides the feed for the battery management digital readout.



A 30 amp transfer switch was also installed in the electrical compartment. I ran 110 volt cable from the AC distribution panel microwave oven circuit breaker to the transfer switch. The default side of the transfer switch is connected to the 110 volts provided by the inverter. The common side of the transfer switch is connected to the microwave oven circuit. I added a receptacle to the circuit for powering a coffee maker or vacuum cleaner when needed. When the rig is NOT plugged into shore power the transfer switch connects the microwave oven circuit to the inverter. Obviously only one appliance can be powered by this inverter at a time which is not a problem for us. When shore power is available, the transfer switch automatically connects the microwave circuit to the breaker in the AC panel and all works as it did originally. The transfer switch automatically connects the best available power to the circuit.



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Since doing this modification, I have found that we have plenty of “juice” for at least four days of heavy use and the panels have the battery bank recharged by the time the next weekend rolls around. Even on overcast days the panels provide enough power to the reefer and other electronics without taking anything from the batteries. Overall, I am very pleased with the operation and performance of the system. It was a lot of work but well worth it. The system is quiet, produces no pollution, needs little maintenance and uses no fuel. While it comes close to the cost of a generator, the neighbors won’t complain about the noise the panels DON’T make and I am hoping that this setup will provide for our power needs when we hit the road six months at a time.
 
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Will you have to always camp in the open for it to work? I've thought about doing what you did, but things such as trees, leaves falling on the panels, cleaning under the panels, dirt and dust from dirt roads, and cleaning of the panels have stopped me.

Any thoughts on those things?



. . Preston. .
 
Currently we camp mostly on weekends. So the batteries will last that length of time no matter where we park. Some dirt and leaves will impact the performance but not that much and normal washing is all that is required. During the week the trailer is parked in the open and that is enough to bring the battery bank up full, ready for another weekend. Even on an overcast day you get some out put and some sun just about anywhere you park. We were camped under trees this past weekend but the morning sun was enough to keep the batteries pretty well up. They really pretty well look after themselves.



Casey
 
Very well thought out system, congrats on a job well done. Thats a lot of work and you should be proud.





When are you doing mine :D
 
Very cool!! I have a similar setup on my rig except for the 6 volt batts and only 96 Watt panel. I do have it wired so if generator is on the relay uses it, when inverter is on it is used. I have toy hauler and dry is only option except generator. But that big glowing thing in the sky makes up for that. Again veryy coooll !!
 
Very nice! I guess I'll have to make do with the 2x125W panels until I get a tailer with more usable roof space! This is my third 5'ver... 1st one had one 85W panel, 2nd had 2x75W and now 2x125W.



Jay
 
I did the almost same thing on my Desert FOx trailer.



I have 2, 50 watt and 1, 100 watt panel for a total of 200 watts.





Have a 21 amp controller inside that monitors the charge...





Have 2, 6-volt Batteries in the stock location.

I have a generator that was already on the trailer when I bought it , I use it sparingly.



I didn't get a switch for the Shore power but I got a 2000 watt inverter that hooks 2, 110volt wires with plugs to the terminals at the breakers. Al I have to remember is to unplug the inverter when I want Shore Power.....



These are the ICP Global panels I have. There are 6 brackets that lift the panels off the roof a couple of inches for water and debris to flow off... .

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Heres how these hook together. there are push on connectors that are sealed, yet I used a little dicor for water run-off...

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The panel to monitor the charge and it controlls it by stopping the charge when the batteries get to 14. 4 volts or wherever I want to set it.....

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How it is situated on the panel above the radio...

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My whole rig set-up

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(SIGH!) :rolleyes:



And here *I* sit with my miserable SINGLE 25 watt portable panel that I move around to catch the sun, and a pair of golf-car batteries in series...



OH well, us "po folk" gotta do the best with what we go! ;) :D :p
 
I love this info.

I haven't got my next trailer yet, but I and trying to figure out what it would take to keep a charge for full time use. It will be used in far nothern CA, so I wouldn't need the AC too much, and I 'should' have shore power for that when needed. If not I can run a generator for it when needed.

Oh, not to be nosy, but what is the cost range for the setups that you guys have here? I was previously thinking about two Honda 2000's hooked up, but that really adds up in cost.
 
On the system I have, every 100 watts is about $900



the 100 watts makes 6. 6 amps peak max. I have 200 watts total and the most I have seen is around 10 amps at noontime... .



There are cheaper units and different packages you can get... but all in all about $800-900 per 100 watts.
 
ICP Solar: 300 Watts... .



Now that is worth going for.



Just think, out camping, enjoying the cool breezes, AND running my ham radio full bore all day and still charging up the battery for night time use.
 
My set up for the panels, wiring, controller, inverter and transfer switch was right around $2500. Close to the cost of a generator but the operation is so transparent that you hardly need to think about the system. Just wash the panels once in a while and maintain the batteries.



Casey
 
I have 2 ea 120 watt panels, 2 ea 6v golf cart batteries, a 30 amp controller, 250 watt true sine wave inverter, and a battery monitor. I have about $2000 invested in my setup. Close to another $3000 in the generator setup. It ain't cheap, but sure is fun. Of course, in the summer here, if we are camping in southern AZ, we stay where we can have hookups 'cause we need to run the AC quite a bit when it's 100* of better.



See my RV page in my sig for details.
 
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