Name this tool ?

[BIGNASTY]

JHawes and BSeyler



Most of my string are good about letting me work on their hooves but one of the new guy's to the gang is a leaner. As soon as you pick up his leg he Lean's on me hard its doesnt matter what corner of him you pick up. What do you do to break him of this? A one legged cowboy with a new knee in the other cant do this for very long

 

[GCroyle]

Guys,



Didn't grow up on a farm, but had the pleasure of telling a few co-workers what a Farrier is.



I understand that comment about the Ladies being the boss on that occupation, that Equine stuff gets in their genes and stays put.

 

[GCroyle]

JHawes and BSeyler



Most of my string are good about letting me work on their hooves but one of the new guy's to the gang is a leaner. As soon as you pick up his leg he Lean's on me hard its doesnt matter what corner of him you pick up. What do you do to break him of this? A one legged cowboy with a new knee in the other cant do this for very long

REALLY out of my limited worthless repetoir of stuff that I claim to know something about, but I do remember seeing a hayburner or two subjected to a twitch to keep their attention focused on something else, REMEMBER I KNOW N O T H I N G worthwhile about road apple manufacturing equipment.



BIGNASTY, I hope one of the TDR Farriers will offer some trustworthy practical experiences.

 

[Deleted member 995608]

Twitches do work but a lot of people mis-use the tool and gain nothing.



The heavy hand approach works but it has to be at the right place and time. More often than not, your emotions are in the wrong place, the horse turns of the light switch and nothing get's done.



Form a shoer's end, I do my best to keep the animal quiet, get my work done, get paid and move on to the next.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Twitches do work but a lot of people mis-use the tool and gain nothing.



The heavy hand approach works but it has to be at the right place and time. More often than not, your emotions are in the wrong place, the horse turns of the light switch and nothing get's done.



Form a shoer's end, I do my best to keep the animal quiet, get my work done, get paid and move on to the next.

Sound words of wisdom I had to learn the hard way. These guys are smarter than most give credit for. I use to think that kicking their A** was going to help but when one pinned me between a barn post and its A** and leaned HARD into me well when I got out of the hospital because of a cracked sternum I changed my thinking JUST A LITTLE BIT.

 

[Deleted member 995608]

Sound words of wisdom I had to learn the hard way. These guys are smarter than most give credit for. I use to think that kicking their A** was going to help but when one pinned me between a barn post and its A** and leaned HARD into me well when I got out of the hospital because of a cracked sternum I changed my thinking JUST A LITTLE BIT.

Hate it when that happens.



Good lesson learned the hard way. Haha.

 

[BSeyler]

JHawes and BSeyler

Most of my string are good about letting me work on their hooves but one of the new guy's to the gang is a leaner. As soon as you pick up his leg he Lean's on me hard its doesnt matter what corner of him you pick up. What do you do to break him of this? A one legged cowboy with a new knee in the other cant do this for very long

I've shod horses that were leaners and it's pretty hard to know why without seeing them. Sometimes a past injury will cause them discomfort and you just have to work around a bit to find a position where they relax. It may put you in a position that is not too comfortable, but sure beats the heck out of trying to hold one up. I used to shoe for several ranches and most of them still had their old barns with a wooden floor. Occasionally, I'd shoe one inside. Seems like the difference in footing helped for some. I've also had some success with tying a foot up. Anything you do like that, using a twitch, etc. , depends on the horse and its disposition.

I totally agree with JHawes and keeping them quiet. On many occasions, I had owners remark that I sure had fewer problems than the last guy that shod their horse. Sometimes, the old pony just needs to know you didn't show up just to whip on him. The jobs I liked best were the ones where you got the call, did the work and got the check in the mail. The old saying, "When they showed up to help, it was like having two good hands walk off," comes to mind with some owners.

Is this new one a mule? I don't have a lot of experience with mules, but they can be a very cagey animal. My ex-father in law cowboyed and guided hunters all over the Wind River Mountains for years. He had quite a string of mules. By the time I met him, he was pretty much down to cowboying in the summer and reading Louis L'Amour books in the winter. I wish I had known him in his younger days. A wealth of information and experience died with him.

One a final note to my windy reply - I've told my kids that I'm old enough to assume an advisory role now. Got any younger guys around that neck of the woods? I'd put them to work.

 

[BIGNASTY]

My BIL and Nephew do and have done most of the farrier work and when we were in CA we had a guy come over and do it. I did the general work and up keep but never did anything important I have started doing it just because they are mine and I should do it . Earl one of my Mule's had a problem at birth and they were going to put him down because of it. A friend that taught me how to pack in Bishop CA said to buy the mule he could fix it with some time and corrective shoeing. I took the chance and did he worked out to be the strongest one I have (not the smartest ) but he will do what I ask of him no questions. The others are pretty good i'm always messing with them because of the work that they do you have to stay pretty much up on them they are kind of big/heavy and awkward to carry out of the mountains. Last July we bought 4 more Mules and 1 is the problem he leans HARD my fake leg cant take the weight and the new knee is quivering when he leans so for now my BIL is doing him. But its good to ask someone that has done it for a long time and able to at least CRAWL OR DRAG themselves to the keyboard. We have 8 animals and I dont need to go to the gym when I work on the hooves. Thanks for the info



BIG

 

[Deleted member 995608]

I've shod horses that were leaners and it's pretty hard to know why without seeing them. Sometimes a past injury will cause them discomfort and you just have to work around a bit to find a position where they relax. It may put you in a position that is not too comfortable, but sure beats the heck out of trying to hold one up. I used to shoe for several ranches and most of them still had their old barns with a wooden floor. Occasionally, I'd shoe one inside. Seems like the difference in footing helped for some. I've also had some success with tying a foot up. Anything you do like that, using a twitch, etc. , depends on the horse and its disposition.



I totally agree with JHawes and keeping them quiet. On many occasions, I had owners remark that I sure had fewer problems than the last guy that shod their horse. Sometimes, the old pony just needs to know you didn't show up just to whip on him. The jobs I liked best were the ones where you got the call, did the work and got the check in the mail. The old saying, "When they showed up to help, it was like having two good hands walk off," comes to mind with some owners.

Is this new one a mule? I don't have a lot of experience with mules, but they can be a very cagey animal. My ex-father in law cowboyed and guided hunters all over the Wind River Mountains for years. He had quite a string of mules. By the time I met him, he was pretty much down to cowboying in the summer and reading Louis L'Amour books in the winter. I wish I had known him in his younger days. A wealth of information and experience died with him.



One a final note to my windy reply - I've told my kids that I'm old enough to assume an advisory role now. Got any younger guys around that neck of the woods? I'd put them to work.

That's a goodn'.