Need a new cam, which is best for a towing application?

[GShail]

My truck is a part right now and I need to either order a new cam or get mine sent in to be reground. What is going to be the best cam for towing applications. Keep in mind the mods I already have, please. Your help will be much appreciated. Thanks.

 

[jwilliams3]

Get a Helix 2 from F1 Diesel.

 

[GShail]

What about the cam from the Project X truck? I think it is from Greg Hogue.

 

[Diesel Power]

i would go with one of the new schieds or haisley machine cams, and while your at it replace your tired valve springs and keepers, retainers, that would best complement the cam swap.

 

[GShail]

Already planning on replacing the valves and all of the retatainers and things. Getting a port and polish on the head while i am at it. But which cam will be best for towing?

 

[GShail]

Called haisley & Scheid this morning, at both shops the people who can answer my questions are still not back from a weekend pulling event in Texas. Towing cams anyone . . . . Bueller . . . . Bueller?

 

[jwilliams3]

You dont need new retainers or keepers. The stock 24V units hold up great to performance.



I would also advise the ProSportsman springs from F1 Diesel. They work great and get rid of valve float.



If you want a Scheid Cam I have one in the garage that is a "street" regrind that I would darn near give you.

 

[Luken]

Listen to jwilliams. Go with F1 cam and springs.

 

[Diesel Power]

Listen to jwilliams. Go with F1 cam and springs.

anything wrong with haisly or schieds?

 

[Bandit1]

DOWN WITH REGRINDS!! I agree with jwilliams

 

[Diesel Power]

Called haisley & Scheid this morning, at both shops the people who can answer my questions are still not back from a weekend pulling event in Texas. Towing cams anyone . . . . Bueller . . . . Bueller?

give me a pm or call i should be able to help

 

[Diesel Power]

You dont need new retainers or keepers. The stock 24V units hold up great to performance.



I would also advise the ProSportsman springs from F1 Diesel. They work great and get rid of valve float.



If you want a Scheid Cam I have one in the garage that is a "street" regrind that I would darn near give you.

normally i would agree, but he has many miles on his truck and the retainers are made for a stock valve spring, higher psi springs have been known to collapse stock retainers. also the keepers will sometimes put a wear grove in the retainers, which also weakens them. i would suggest if you are going to do it, do it right, at least that would make me feel better... ... . :-laf

 

[BHaner]

F1 Helix 2. Oo.

 

[jwilliams3]

Wade,

I havent seen a worn out retainer on a 24V yet or ever see someone post about one yet in the last 5 years.

I also dont think theres a better collet out there than the stock unit(for a 24V). I also dont think Titanium is as tough as good ole steel.



Maybe somone has some secret parts out there that they are squirelling away!!



However the valve problem seems to be somewhat common on a 12V motor.

 

[Diesel Power]

Wade,

I havent seen a worn out retainer on a 24V yet or ever see someone post about one yet in the last 5 years.

I also dont think theres a better collet out there than the stock unit(for a 24V). I also dont think Titanium is as tough as good ole steel.



Maybe somone has some secret parts out there that they are squirelling away!!



However the valve problem seems to be somewhat common on a 12V motor.

on most trucks 50k or less your correct, but those with higher miles i have seen and herd horror stories, titanium is 30% lighter and 50 % stronger than steel, but it is a lot more money too. the average race motor is not taken care of as one would expect, most just use the cheapest filters and oil, that is where most of the wear comes from in the valve train---it's not strain but lack of good lubrication, soot, oxidation and lack of filtration will ruin a trusty cummins in a short matter of time alone. i once talked with aguy who knew some one who got a new cummins drove it for about 80k changed the oil regularly but never the filter, well it siezed. the truck was all stock, the bearings and the valve train were oil deprovated. now thats just stupid... .....

 

[jwilliams3]

Most commercially available titanium is comparable in strength to mild steel.

The benefit with the titanium valve trains out there is the weight savings..... you also pay for the name.



There is however 6al-4v Titanium that is pretty strong stuff which I doubt is being used..... BUT there is 316 Stainless steel that is harder and has a higher tensile strength... .



But hey... . what ever floats peoples boats.

 

[GShail]

What about the cam that Greg Hogue is using in the project X truck. Too agressive?

 

[Diesel Power]

we will find out this weekend what a stock cam and valve train will make for power... ... ...

 

[GShail]

Where can i find the telephone number for F1? Not at home where I can look at my recent issues of the TDR

 

[Bob4x4]

http://www.f1diesel.com/contacts.html