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I have a 2007 3500 Dually 5. 9, auto, 4. 10 gears, 4x4 that I tow a 15,000lb trailer full of toys to Glamis several times per season. It now has 4500 miles on it and I am ready for more power and mileage.

I have had several diesel trucks since 1994 and modified all of them with good results so I'm not new to this. I have always pieced together my performance stuff but like the idea of buying a complete package.

In talking with Banks today I was skeptical regarding their claims of the big performance gains with minimal black smoke.

The package retails for $3900 shipped which I am ok with but would like to hear from people that have experience with the Big Hoss Bundle. Do you like the PDA and its' features?

Can I get some input from people that have pieced together packages like this along with what you like/don't like?
 
Use the search feature here, lot of posts RE: banks. Save your money, Buy a smarty and beef up trany, get aftermarket muffler. Just my 2 cents
 
$3900 can get you alot better performance using other suppliers. Just my suggestion.

1. ] A Smarty programmer or TST module $700

2. ] A Super Stock 62 from High Tech turbo $1400

3. ] A AFE intake $400

4. ] A Fass fuel system to supply your rig $600

5. ] Put the rest into your transmission & have a great towing rig

Banks don't have nothing on this setup... . plus you don't have to hassle with the lack of customer service that Banks supplies after the sale.

You should read this thread before dealing with Banks. https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181259
 
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Most think that the Banks stuff is over priced and under powered. Banks seems to have much better safe guards than most. I have thier cat back system and love the quaility and sound. Since you tow heavy you might better use all of those safe guard to protect your truck rather than making big power with out the contraints. But do your research in the search features. Price is not everything.
 
You'll notice there are not a lot of banks fans on this site... . or many others... . search on "banks" and you'll see some real world feedback (and some haters)... . i've never used their stuff, so i've no opinion in regards to them.



I agree with 724 above, those are the categories of components you need for making and handling good power, there are many choices in each category, but those are the critical pieces. The bank kit doesnt address some of the categories such as fuel supply, transmission and turbo... .



What are your horsepower goals? I'm shooting for a good all around 400-450hp thats useable for towing and daily driving.



My plan of attack

1. ] A Smarty programmer - Done, greatest thing since sliced bread

2. ] SPS62 from II - $1500

3. ] True Flow Intake (or Amsoil Dry Filter) - $80-200 - I have the trueflow

4. ] GDP392 Fuel Sys - $500

5. ] DTT Trans Work: TC, VB, BI, Misc - $4k

6. ] Exhaust: I have a cat back, but you only need to swap the muffler out $80 to $XXX



Also Guages: I'd look at the Quad Commander... $400



Good Luck, and enjoy your truck!
 
I have a 2007 3500 Dually 5. 9, auto, 4. 10 gears, 4x4 that I tow a 15,000lb trailer full of toys to Glamis several times per season. It now has 4500 miles on it and I am ready for more power and mileage.

I have had several diesel trucks since 1994 and modified all of them with good results so I'm not new to this. I have always pieced together my performance stuff but like the idea of buying a complete package.

In talking with Banks today I was skeptical regarding their claims of the big performance gains with minimal black smoke.

The package retails for $3900 shipped which I am ok with but would like to hear from people that have experience with the Big Hoss Bundle. Do you like the PDA and its' features?

Can I get some input from people that have pieced together packages like this along with what you like/don't like?



Add the Banks kit and you will be fighting to get any warranty work done on your truck. Just ask Gale if he will cover it when D/C says no :-laf :-laf



I go to Glamis with my trailer also but when I get there I unhook the House and take the truck out in the dunes Oo.

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Pm me and I can tell you what works best for the least.





Bob
 
Bob $X$, I have One simple Question for you on the latest Versions of Banks Software, Please enlighten the Members and Guests on what's available ,the differences and their applications. Just The PDA versions will be fine,Tuner versions are Not require.
 
Bob $X$, I have One simple Question for you on the latest Versions of Banks Software, Please enlighten the Members and Guests on what's available ,the differences and their applications. Just The PDA versions will be fine,Tuner versions are Not require.



TWest,

It appears you sell Banks maybe it would be better if YOU posted the answer to your own questions. It IS A WELL KNOWN FACT that Banks does not have a very good rep on this Board! IMHO and from the thousands of post Ive read on this board!!:confused:
 
Bob $X$, I have One simple Question for you on the latest Versions of Banks Software, Please enlighten the Members and Guests on what's available ,the differences and their applications. Just The PDA versions will be fine,Tuner versions are Not require.





My response would not be favorable for your sales :-laf that is why I said PM :)

There are very few people not concerned with warranty on a new truck. Don't bother quoting Moss... ... ... ... ... :rolleyes:



Bob
 
TWest,

It appears you sell Banks maybe it would be better if YOU posted the answer to your own questions. It IS A WELL KNOWN FACT that Banks does not have a very good rep on this Board! IMHO and from the thousands of post Ive read on this board!!:confused:



first Version 1. 3. Second version 1. 41 third version 1. 5 , This version added Six-Gun Tuning and LCD Property's. All three worked on all GM,Ford,Dodge,Some feature were disable in Dodge,and Ford applications, GM to Present Has More tuning Parameters than Ford and Dodge. I could break them all down ,but that would use considerable band-with. Version 1. 5 was removed at Cale Banks Request, In doing so this removed some of the Six-gun tuning parameters that Many Owners enjoyed and were disappointed when lost. T&C has this Version available upon request. 1. 3 ,1. 41,1. 5 Are now replaced with 1. 7.



This version eliminates the Six-Gun tuning feature for all levels other than Speed-Loader.

This version corrects the transmission temperature display on Power Pack and Stinger applications for the Duramax LLY.

This version adds support for the 2006 Duramax LLY/LBZ. .

It is notable that some members of this Board,Share of road or track only applications as it was safe for everyone... Example Some aftermarket companies program their software to remove the Speed limiting factor that the MANUFACTURERS program for street use,I have no problem with this as LONG AS THE MANUFACTURER CLEARLY STATES (OFF ROAD OR TRACK USE ONLY) AND IS NOT RECOMMENDED TO BE REMOVE FOR STREET USE. Maybe some could live with the thought that a family of four was killed by a truck that was traveling at 100mph plus when the driver lost control and collided with another vehicle, This is ONE thought I can live without. . If all your interested in is speed with no concern for the Public or the safe operation of a vehicle, BANKS is not for you. Now Look at the Products available that produce incredible amounts of HP. everyone has the option for which application to purchase. Its mixing the the two that creates conflict. let's not get into marketing, ALL THE MANUFACTURERS ARE **** THIS AREA.
 
. Maybe some could live with the thought that a family of four was killed by a truck that was traveling at 100mph plus when the driver lost control and collided with another vehicle, This is ONE thought I can live without. . .



That is not a way to make sales. I know stories too, but everyone of them have to do with idiot drivers misusing products. I mean "guns don't kill... . people with guns do".
 
That is not a way to make sales. I know stories too, but everyone of them have to do with idiot drivers misusing products. I mean "guns don't kill... . people with guns do".



I wish we live in that world,Unfortunately we don't,It may be easy for the someone to feel justify. As far as sales,My customers Leave with their Best interest intact... I would push dirt in a wheelbarrow first for Profit ,Before I would put someone at great risk. Idiots don't discriminate or without extreme prejudice,they will injure or cause harm to anyone. .
 
I wish we live in that world,Unfortunately we don't,It may be easy for the someone to feel justify. As far as sales,My customers Leave with their Best interest intact... I would push dirt in a wheelbarrow first for Profit ,Before I would put someone at great risk. Idiots don't discriminate or without extreme prejudice,they will injure or cause harm to anyone. .



Sorry to tell you this, but a bone stock truck will do 100mph. Products made by Banks is still considered as a performance enhancing product made to pull trailers faster & raise hp numbers for the strip. He brags about his products "spanking" his competitors... . does he not?
 
THIS IS A HIGH

PERFORMANCE PRODUCT.

USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.

Do not use this product until

you have carefully read the

following agreement.

This sets forth the terms and

conditions for the use of this

product. The installation of this

product indicates that the

BUYER has read and

understands this agreement

and accepts its terms and

conditions
.

Disclaimer of Liability

Gale Banks Engineering Inc. , and its

distributors, employees, and dealers

(hereafter “SELLER”) shall in no way

be responsible for the product’s

proper use and service.
The BUYER

hereby waives all liability claims.

The BUYER acknowledges that he/she

is not relying on the SELLER’s skill or

judgment to select or furnish goods

suitable for any particular purpose and

that there are no liabilities which

extended beyond the description on

the face hereof and the BUYER hereby

waives all remedies or liabilities,

expressed or implied, arising by law or

otherwise, (including without any

obligations of the SELLER with respect

to fitness, merchantability, and

consequential damages) whether or

not occasioned by the SELLER’s

negligence.

The BUYER is responsible to fully

understand the capability and

limitations of his/her vehicle according

to manufacturer specifications and

agrees to hold the SELLER harmless

from any damage resulting from the

failure to adhere to such

specifications.


The SELLER disclaims any warranty

and expressly disclaims any liability for

personal injury or damages. The

BUYER acknowledges and agrees that

the disclaimer of any liability for

personal injury is a material term for

this agreement and the BUYER

agrees to indemnify the SELLER and

to hold the SELLER harmless from any

claim related to the item of the

equipment purchased. Under no

circumstances will the SELLER be

liable for any damages or expenses by

reason of the use or sale of any such

equipment.

The BUYER is responsible to obey all

applicable federal, state, and local

laws, statutes, and ordinances when

operating his/her vehicle, and the

BUYER agrees to hold SELLER

harmless from any violation thereof.


The SELLER assumes no liability

regarding the improper installation or

misapplication of its products. It is the

installer’s responsibility to check for

proper installation and if in doubt,

contact the manufacturer.

The BUYER is solely responsible for all

warranty issues from the automotive

manufacturer.

Limitation of Warranty

Gale Banks Engineering Inc. , (hereafter

“SELLER”) gives Limited Warranty as to

description, quality, merchantability,

fitness for any particular purpose,

productiveness, or any other matter of

SELLER’s product sold herewith. The

SELLER shall be in no way responsible

for the product’s open use and service

and the BUYER hereby waives all

rights except those expressly written

herein. This Warranty shall not be

extended or varied except by written

instrument signed by SELLER and

BUYER.



The Warranty is Limited to two (2)

years from the date of sale and is

limited solely to the parts contained

within the product’s kit. All products

that are in question of Warranty must

be returned shipping prepaid to the

SELLER and must be accompanied by

a dated proof of purchase receipt. All

Warranty claims are subject to

approval by Gale Banks Engineering

Inc.

Under no circumstance shall the

SELLER be liable for any labor charged

or travel time incurred in diagnosis for

defects, removal, or reinstallation of

this product, or any other contingent

expense.

Under no circumstances will the

SELLER be liable for any damage or

expenses incurred by reason of the

use or sale of any such equipment.

IN THE EVENT THAT THE BUYER

DOES NOT AGREE WITH THIS

AGREEMENT:

The BUYER may promptly

return this product, in a new

and unused condition, with a

dated proof-of-purchase, to the

place-of-purchase within thirty

(30) days from date-of-purchase

for a full refund. The installation

of this product indicates that

the BUYER has read and

understands this agreement

and accepts its terms and

conditions.


Third party Sales are NOT protected Under this agreement,(Highlighted Red)

100mph was the number I picked,if you desire to travel on public road ways faster than safe conditions allow, may have been a better statement.
 
Sorry to tell you this, but a bone stock truck will do 100mph. Products made by Banks is still considered as a performance enhancing product made to pull trailers faster & raise hp numbers for the strip. He brags about his products "spanking" his competitors... . does he not?



Cummins724,Your Right, Banks has taken a more Conservative approach the last 2 years or so, Now Most of Cale's Bragging in done OFF ROAD. this is the correct place for it,BANKS has the knowledge,resources,capacities to produce incredible amounts of HP for street use,they chose to market the owner friendly operations, and get chastise regularly for it.
 
Please explain the difference to me regarding the black smoke. How does Banks accomplish the horsepower gains without a big puff of black smoke?
 
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