need help please

[Ron Bissett]

This second post for help ,was puting in boost and pyro guages and must of scrued some thing up. First a/c blower would not work second started to back out of drive ,eng guit will not turn over at all the windows are down and its ben rain on and off all night . I covered them with a blue tarp and closed the door on them ,kept most of the rain out sofar . Its Sunday and most every thing is closed local Auto Zone don't have the brakers . I have ben switching them arround but no effect . The head lights work door chime works , windows down and not working starter will not turn . I am at a stand still don't let this happen to you . Have some spair fuzes all typs . another question no#9 Fuze has a black plastic fitting on it that keeps it in place and I can not see a way of getting it out without braking it appart , Guys I sure need advice on the above ,thanks for any help you can give standing by in KY note saw a post about wire checked my truck I guess its for 4x4 mine is 2x4 awating any replys P. S checked for fuzable links could not find any . Ron in Louisville Just back tried fuze block in cab no luck tested with meeter seemed ok for continuity need help Ron in Louisville Ky

 

[Ron Bissett]

still down

Still down in the driveway ,spent the day checking fuzes and changing what I could as it's Sunday most all places except auto zone are closed . auto zone fellow said that Dodge used a fuzible link mear the starter ,I looked but did not find one . I used a multy meeter for continuity and then held the fuze agenst the pos bat terminal and used a test led light to check them for current flow they seemed ok. some braker or link fuze must be out . I don't have any voltage to the a/c or blower , no power to windows , no power at black orange wire (hot with key on) . Head lights ok door locks ok all lights inside dome ect. ok chime ok . will not turn over at all . Acts like when cluch is not deprest ,every thing on the dash goes out. I was hoping to hear from some more members . Only had three suggestions and thank those members for helping out . Put a tarp blue (Big Lots ) over the doors and closed them over it kept most of the rain out. If I can not find out what is causing this situation . Its off to the 5 star dealer . If you have any thoughts ill be watching the Board Thanks for any help you can give . Ron in Louisville Ky I ts good to know you guys are out there . The truck has ben in the dealer shop for almost two weeks do to it rolling out of the drive and accross the street landed on a concreet culvert little damage to body but plenty of parts like drive shafts fuel tank muffler rear bumper small stuff (parts) insurance paid and was getting it ready ,now this . Thanks for any and all ideas . Ron in Louisville

 

[Wiredawg]

Ron:



Sorry to hear about your problem. You're doing all the things I would do, such as checking the fuses and such. Can't imagine what happened. The only electical connections for those gauges is the lights. Did you check your battery/ground connections?



If you can't find bad fuses, check connectors under the dash since you had to fish pyro wire and boost tube in. I assume you connected boost tube to manifold plug near MAP sensor (right rear of engine). Might want to check connectors above engine too. Do more than a visual. Physically press connectors together.



Don't know too much beyond this. Hope it helps



Wiredawg

 

[Pete Peterson]

Reading!!

Ron I'm reading the service manual as fast as I can, Been doing this work for over 30 years but before I say anything i like to be sure I'm right so as to not waste your time. Be back if I find anything... ... ... ... ... . Pete

 

[Doc Tinker]

Ron - It's raining cats and dogs here right now, so I can't go out to look at my truck, to see what all that #9 fuse does. I believe, if you pull it part way out, it shuts off the radio, interior lights and the door dinger.



It's possible it works other stuff like the starter relay. You might have blown it, but only if you used a larger fuse than was intended, when you did the wiring for your gauges.



Did you check the fuses in the black box, inside the left fender? There is a 6"x9" flat cover on it. There are a couple of tabs on the front and back part of the box that you push to take the top off.



Like Wiredawg said, check all of the connectors, near where you were fiddling, you might have jarred something loose.



Hope you find it.



Doc

 

[Pete Peterson]

Hummmmm???

Ron, I'm not realluy finding anything in the book that ties everything together. The fusable links are right at the battery, looks like a piece of wire with shrink tubing on it, should be two of them, but you would need a direct short to blow those, they are your last line of defense to keep from burning your truck down with a direct short of some kind. Now I know you gone over it but some where during this gauge install you could have worked a plug loose, all these harnesses plug into each other and one could be loose. The biggest junction block is under the dash drivers side, pull the knee bolster off under the steering wheel and with a flash light take a good to see if one is loose. Check the juntion box under the hood also, this fix could be that simple.

Did you do any soldering putting this together? Some of us solder most of our work so just in case check to make sure you didn't get any extra solder on anything.

Lastly, it looks like most everthing feeds from the main distribution box under the hood, some of the stuff under there is fused and some of it is relayed to work, if for some reason you got a short across the coil pins on a relay its history even though it is showing you potenial at the common terminals.

Sorry I can't be of more help, I wish you luk and let the rest of us know how it turns out... ... ... ... ... ..... Pete

 

[Ron Bissett]

Re: Hummmmm???

Originally posted by Pete Peterson

Ron, I'm not realluy finding anything in the book that ties everything together. The fusable links are right at the battery, looks like a piece of wire with shrink tubing on it, should be two of them, but you would need a direct short to blow those, they are your last line of defense to keep from burning your truck down with a direct short of some kind. Now I know you gone over it but some where during this gauge install you could have worked a plug loose, all these harnesses plug into each other and one could be loose. The biggest junction block is under the dash drivers side, pull the knee bolster off under the steering wheel and with a flash light take a good to see if one is loose. Check the juntion box under the hood also, this fix could be that simple.

Did you do any soldering putting this together? Some of us solder most of our work so just in case check to make sure you didn't get any extra solder on anything.

Lastly, it looks like most everthing feeds from the main distribution box under the hood, some of the stuff under there is fused and some of it is relayed to work, if for some reason you got a short across the coil pins on a relay its history even though it is showing you potenial at the common terminals.

Sorry I can't be of more help, I wish you luk and let the rest of us know how it turns out... ... ... ... ... ..... Pete

Thanks for your help check as you said I crimped the connections took them all out though . I had to move my exhaust brake switch and when I put it back to gether it blew a fuze 10 amp and i put a new one in and switch light was on in bouth on and off so is switched leads and that blew the fuzes I think that the switch was damaged by me when removing it . also the replace ment fuze was larger 14amp ifound it out later three 10 and one 14 don't know how I got that one from. Ill keep on checking , again thanks for your help . And Doc Tinker and all you out there . Ron in Louisville Ky

 

[MidwestMotorman]

Maybe simple???

Ron,



Any chance you left a light on in the truck and the batteries are drained down enough not to start? Try jump starting it and see if it gets you anywhere. Sounds stupid, but if a battery was weak, a dome light can kill them in under twenty minutes!



There is the possibility that you fried the ECM...



Any chance you could just repeat the previous accident and have it catch fire? Sorry for that, I bet it hurt...

 

[Amianthus]

I agree with nathan. What's the voltage on your batteries? They may be dead or weak. Also, disconnect the exhaust brake switch. That may also be a source of a ground (short). Keep us posted.

 

[Ethdee]

I'm looking at a 2001 manual. I have no idea whether they're the same, but it's the closest I have.



Is there any chance you bothered C134? That's the big connector under the dash to the left of the steering wheel. That's the only place I could find (so far) common to your problems.



The starter uses fuse 10 in the PDC (under the hood), and also fuse 9. The BK/OR wire, blower motor, windows, and door locks all come from fuse 2 in the PDC.



If there's nothing on the BK/OR in the key run position, check the PK/BK wire. That should be hot. That goes through C134 and to fuse 2 (30A) in the Power Distribution Center.



If the PK/BK *is* hot on both sides of C134, I'd say the ignition switch is fried, or has a loose connector.



I hope this helps. Again, all I have to look at is a 2001 manual.



Ethdee

 

[Ron Bissett]

Originally posted by Ethdee

I'm looking at a 2001 manual. I have no idea whether they're the same, but it's the closest I have.



Is there any chance you bothered C134? That's the big connector under the dash to the left of the steering wheel. That's the only place I could find (so far) common to your problems.



The starter uses fuse 10 in the PDC (under the hood), and also fuse 9. The BK/OR wire, blower motor, windows, and door locks all come from fuse 2 in the PDC.



If there's nothing on the BK/OR in the key run position, check the PK/BK wire. That should be hot. That goes through C134 and to fuse 2 (30A) in the Power Distribution Center.



If the PK/BK *is* hot on both sides of C134, I'd say the ignition switch is fried, or has a loose connector.



I hope this helps. Again, all I have to look at is a 2001 manual.



Ethdee

Thanks for information will check out as you said later to night after I pick up wife from work (her car) I posted what I found so far but will try to put it in order soon as I return about ten thirty local time EDST. 2230 hrs Keep the ideas coming fellows I need all the help I can get again thanks . Ron in Louisville Ky (drive way w/winows up ) Truck down