Need pictures of 93 W350

[RSchwarzli]

Does anyone have pictures of the four corners of a 93 W350? I need to do some comparing to the crew as there is some stuff that to me does not look right, but am not sure if it is stock.



Secondly, does anyone have pictures of the correct front rim covers for a W350?



Robert

 

[Philip]

The stock rims had a beauty band with a center cap. Mine were plain with the center cut for the lockouts. I ditched them years ago when I went to alum rims.

 

[Philip]

Here are some pic's of my W350. It is a LE model which you CC was never made in.



Forgive the dirt and rust. The rust is in process of being worked on.

 

[LEggers]

Here are some pictures of my own rig. enjoy

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[LEggers]

Robert



Looking at your other post of your new toy it looks like you may either have a smaller front diff. or the wrong wheels mounted to the correct diff. Not sure but I know my wheels above are correct and mounted to a dana 60. The rear end in my truck is a dana 70. My front wheels are dished and the axle looks to be wider then yours its hard to tell maybe there was a 3/4 ton front axle installed on your truck not sure if that could be done.

Maybe you should have people post pictures of there W250's as well.



I do not know as much as others on this board just offering my . 02 cents.



Lance Seattle, WA.

 

[Philip]

He has a 250 front axle from the other post. The dually rims will hit the frame on turns with the closer set SRW axle.

 

[RSchwarzli]

Philip,



Sorry, not following. You wanna come again?

 

[LEggers]

Robert

One thing I can tell you is. I can change my front wheel from the front to the rear and rear to the front.

I do not think you can do this by the looks of your pictures. My guess again would be either they used a smaller front axle on the gas 1 ton and on the diesel 1 tons they used a larger front axle for the weight of the engine.

 

[LEggers]

Here is what the dana 60 front axle looks like from the inside...

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["Mad Max"]

what Gus is tryin' to say is...

Bob -

Your rig is no doubt a conversion, and it looks to be a really nice one. Okay, basically there are two versions of axles - single rear wheel (SRW) and dual rear wheel (DRW) or dually. Both versions, providing no swaps or conversions (ie: Factory) have identical wheels front and back, and the suspensions/hubs for both are designed to allow for only one of those varieties, not both - Meaning you can't use dually rims on a SRW axle, and while you can mount SRW rims on a dually hub it would be both dangerous and it'd look really silly, not to mention it'd probably bash the fenders in the front.

But in your case, you have a dually rear axle (probably converted to be that way) and what appears to be the original SRW front Dana 60 axle, and as such you have 4 dually rims in the back (as it should be) and the correct SRW rims on the front Dana 60. I'm guessing you have a front Dana 60 as I doubt there would be a 3/4 ton Dana 44 under the front.

Bottom line - As your rig sits you will have to carry two spare tires - A SRW one that would fit the front, and a DRW one that would fit the back. Not a big deal but one you'd have to do nonetheless.

The alternative, is to convert the front Dana 60 SRW axle to a Front Dana 60 dually (DRW) axle, along with two rim/tire combo's. In the long haul that's what I'd do, and the dually front 60's are out there, but you'll probably need about $1500 to get one. Again, down the line that's be your best bet, but for now go out and scare little Hondas with yer rig amigo - It it one Big Bad Dodge bubba!

I built a gasser '74 crew cab a while ago - learned a lot, and I not only converted the truck to dually, but also to 4x4, and I had to get a dually front and rear axle and all the suspension. I can tell you from very personal experience, that swapping axles is very simple... just that the parts are REALLY heavy. Here's a pics of my old Power Wagon: It's a bit hard to see, but the lugnuts on the front stick out past the rim edge, hence a dually -

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Later amigo -

- S

 

[RSchwarzli]

I hate to say it but you guys were right. I looked up the VIN and the truck was originally a W250. :{ #@$%! :{ My guess all they did was swap out the front end and that was that. I don't think this should be a problem as the truck has 150,000 miles on it and it all seems o. k.





Robert

 

["Mad Max"]

... no worries bubba... if it rides smooth and drives good, drive it till the wheels fall off... and then go get some dually ones if you want. I have seen a LOT of dually conversions that focus only on the rear, mainly for weight distribution and stability. There is really no need to convert the front, with the only real exception of not wanting two spares... and that's no big deal.



In the meantime, toss in a couple spares and keep on a 'smokin!

- S

 

[RSchwarzli]

Right on.



Bubba

 

[1stgen4evr]

spares

"As your rig sits you will have to carry two spare tires" - Sam is absolutely correct in that, but a possible get by solution is to have the 250 spare with a set of lugs that will allow you to use it on the back. In the unlikely event that you kill two tires at once on the back, you can put the 250 spare on that hub and ease to a repair point. In the near million miles I have driven a dually, I have yet to have two flats at once on the back. I have seen it though. Pretty sure that one was flat long before the other. Get in the habit of bumping your tires or at least look at them every time you get in the truck.



From the tone of your post, I hear "I didn't get what I was supposed to". Well it looks jam up to me and you can correct anything you aren't satisfied with. Take you time and you will find any thing you are looking for at an affordable price. Remember that Dodge didn't make these trucks that way. They are all customs. Yours included. Hey, isn't this America where we celebrate our differences.



James

 

[Philip]

The other guy's covered the front axle. That was what I was saying. I could tell it wasn't a dually front axle at a glance.



The good news is it looks like they put the correct rear axle in it. If it had adapters on it for the duals the rear tires would not set in the same location. The single tire rear axle is 12" narrower than a dually. The cab and chassis rear axle is 6" narrower. So the tires would be inside the flairs a lot farther. Adapters on a SRW axle would leave the tires positioned at the C&C axle width. If they used spacers on the SRW axle the tires would be in about 12".



I went threw this with my truck. It had the wrong axle under it when I bought it. The #$@# hillbilly's had used a stack of 5/8's washers to keep the inner duals off the springs. The stack of washers was 3/4' thick. I don't call those people previous owners. I call them Previous idiots or P. I. for short.

 

[Dfeland]

Front axle

Someone please correct me if I am wrong here but I thought that the housing for a non- dually was the same as the dually. I thought all they did was change the hub to push the tire outboard more to match the rear. I say this because both the 3/4 ton 60 and the 1 ton 60 front is rated at 4500#. The spindles and bearings are the same, but I thought that just the hub/rotor assembly was different????????

 

[RSchwarzli]

1stgen4evr,



I was a little dissapointed about it not being a original 350, but I was just concerned with the front axle being a D 44. I looked however and the axle is a D60. Oo. Not so dissapointed anymore.





Robert

 

[Philip]

I thought that the housing for a non- dually was the same as the dually.

No they are not. The SRW rear axle is the narrowest. From brake backing plate flange to flange it measures around 56". The C&C is the next axle. It is about 61" wide from the brake backing plate flanges. The dually axle is the widest. It measures around 72" from backing plat flange to flange.



If you try to install duals on a SWR axle. The inner duals will rub on the spring and the rims will not bolt all the way down. I went threw this with my truck. Try to find a 3:08 geared model 70 for a dually. :{ It took 6 months to find one. My old axle was a SRW and it was bent and eating new rubber off in 10k miles.

 

[boatpuller]

Phillip,

I believe Dfeland was refering to the front axle, I think the front housings are the same, the hubs are just different? Thought you could change to the dually syle wheel by changing the front hubs and the adapter out from the rotor, not sure now but that's what I thought?

If so it wouldn't be that expensive of a swap, but if the housings are different then it would be spendy.



Just my $. 02,



Caleb

 

[Philip]

OOOPPPss missed that one boatpuller. I am not sure what the difference in the front axle is between the 250 and 350 series. Sooner or later me and Case500D will have one of each tore apart to tell the difference.



Case500D has a W250 and a W350 dually. Plus I have a W350 dually. So if we need to open his 250 front axle. We most likely will open one of the 350's and find the differences.