New CAT on-highway truck!

[Nyoest]

Dont most of the Inter trash inoal motors have 2 turbos maybe cat added them also. I read an piece that Cat said the Truck market was only like 15% of the Biss. Well in these times 15% is allot Cat's not cash exempt are they

As stated previously cat makes the short block And IH makes the head and fuel system. Miserable engine that it is it does pull good when it's right. It is seldom right however.

 

[NIsaacs]

IHC needs more respect 1940's something KB12 with 275 Cummins and 5x4 trannys & 2spd axle.



Nick

 

[Mhannink]

Jim,

I understand your background and level of experience but it appears that it you were much more involved with equipment rather than truck installations.

That is a whole different set of circumstances for anyones engines including CAT.



I feel that a bad decison was made in the early stages of emissions and related systems when CAT decided to use the ACERT approach rather than follow the flock using EGR systems and then the UREA approach currently in use. The excuse given to you by the higher ups concerning availability of aftertreatment fluids didn't slow any other engine manufacturer down, you can find the stuff easily.



A french truck driver on the Golden Road (American Loggers) can take your

B10 life and make a complete and total joke of it in about two weeks hauling 200,000lbs. + per trip in a truck that was designed to carry 100,000lbs.

If there are ANY weak points in a design they WILL find them.



I did not mean to indicate that CAT backed out of any warranty or refused to pay out, I simply wanted to point out that I felt it was costing them some serious money to do so and was no longer feasable.



I will give CAT a huge thumbs up on the warranty policies that are in place, they are more than fair.

They will pay operational damage (for example a cylinder head drops a valve, trashes the cylinder kit, cracks the sleeve and fills everything full of coolant, etc. ) they will step up for all the damage where some of the other engine companies will simply take care of the cylinder head itself, the rest is the owners issue.



I know of one instance here in the State Of Maine where an insider and myself added up the cost to CAT for warranty repairs to the engine only for just one C-15 ACERT powered truck while under coverage...



Get ready for it ... ... ... ... ..... $80,000. 00 +!!!!!!



Included one complete engine replacement and several teardowns,

Ain't no company including CAT that will put up with that kind of financial drain longterm.



I have said this in other discussions here and will say it again...

The worst thing that anyone can do to a Diesel Engine is put it in a truck, there is no harsher fate for one.



Mike.

what i heard while working for the local dealer was cat pulled out due to markets closing. i saw this while working at freightliner in reno. diamler at least out here has been pushing their in house products, peterbuilt and kenworth too. also cat couldnt meet emissions that and the markets shutting down on them sealed it. cat bailed out in on highway engines.



the news that trickled down to us which has been coraberated time and time again as i keep my fingers in the pie. cat and navistar joined forces. navistar as i understand it did not have a 15 liter engine. so cat sold them the long blocks, navistar sent them to i think its MAN engine company in germany, they are the suppiler of the maxxforce engines, MAN speced the engine to meet 2010 emissions for the ct-660. i dont know about your insider sources but these where the news releases that we as a dealer got from corprate periodically. the information jim provided also coincides with what i have seen and heard. the truck itself i believe is a joint venture between cat and navistar, i do not think its a rebadged design, but it could be.