Competition New Class

[Turbo Thom]

I posted this on TDG, so now here.



Here's what we're doing in Georgia. Jeff has contacted Eric McBride on a class we call the Farm Truck Racing League. We will race under the DHRA banner as of now.



Here's what we got. Any mod to your truck except turbo. Stacked boxes, injectors, chassis mods, tires, transmission, anything you want to do.



Now the can't do. Any modification to the turbo is OK, but it has to be stock to the truck. If it comes with a HX 35, that's what you run with. Any mods to it , but a 35 none the same. No spray, water, or gas. None at all. This will be a 100% diesel.



As of now, we will run off a pro tree, no bracket style race. Heads up, first to the traps wins. Basically it will be some what like Pro Street, only one turbo.



The weight on each truck is to be 6000 lbs. Changes can be made so what do you think? On my truck, I'll have to add weight.



Some others have said this will be a DuraMax class. We'll, I building a 94 Cummins that says that just aint so.



If anybody would want to setup a series in your state, great. Setup your series and have a run off. Top 4, top 6, whatever. Then we can meet at a track for the championship from all the states combined. Maybe like Commerce or wherever. That's to be decieded. All this is in the planning stag so what ever you comments are, let us know.



Jeff Garmon will run the Georgia races, David (the dyno) Dunbar will keep up with al the point, and Patrick, a racer will be our tech.



All trucks are welcome to run, but the rules will be enforced, so there will be no unfair advantage. Such as, if your truck is plumbed for nitros, you will not be allowed to run, bottle or no bottle. The truck will have to be in such a way that no possibility is there that it can be used.



Now , any suggestions, bring um on. We will be running this in Georgia next year. We have 8 trucks as of now.



. . Preston. .

 

[Powerstroke racer]

Stock to the truck meaning a stock replacement or really stock to the truck?

 

[KBennett]

Sounds like a good idea to me.



If you take away the drugs, I don't think the Duramax will have a chance.

 

[Turbo Thom]

David... ... ... . Good question. The stock turbo is to mean" stock to the truck as far the OEM type". A replacement is fine as long as it's same for same. Any internal work can be done but the change will be a HX 35 for another HX 35. Just an example. One issue I see that will be a croke, is the little piece of crap that comes on the 03 and up Dodges. Those are bad news. I really think the common rail is going to be trouble for a lot of us.



I believe this could be fun if we don't get the regular fussing and nitpicking we normally see. Some issues will have to be addressed such as the 03, but overall, the stock configuration will be maintained. If you have ideas, spit um out. This is gonna be a good time.



. . Preston. .

 

[Powerstroke racer]

Tom

On the 7. 3 Power Stroke we have the Garret GTP38R which is a stock replacement for the factory GTP38 differences are the R has a ported shroud compressor housing with a 4 " inlet vs the factory 3" inlet . The R has roller bearings Vs journal bearings and the R also has an 88mm compressor wheel where the stock is 80. You said the internals could be modified so I would take it that the R is an acceptable turbo.

The reason I bring this up is the stock turbo will self destruct over 400rwhp.



The Dmax turbo can make 500 as well as the 6. 0 turbo.

The 38R is capable of 475-480 on a 7. 3 what can the HX35 do?

As long as the turbos live I think people would be interested.



The only problem I see is if turbos are grenading and oiling the track down,other than that this would be a very fun and competitive class.

 

[Cummins Thunder]

What about exhaust housings? Can they be swaped?



Us 02 auto guys have slight problems with this...



CJ

 

[Turbo Thom]

That's being looked at. ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... .



I just had a talk with Jeff and Patrick and this was decided. A single turbo is all you can run. But that single can be of your choosing. Whatever you want to run is OK. The reason for this is, some turbos in stock form are only good for that, stock. So, for everybody to be on a more equal footing, the choice was made. We all know some stock turbos just want get it.



That's one change.



. . Preston. .

 

[Powerstroke racer]

What kind of time can a 12 or 24V run with a single turbo and be competitive on a pro tree?

This rule would definitely give the advantage to Dodge and the 7. 3 with the edge going to the 7. 3.

 

[Turbo Thom]

I don't really know, David. That would be according if the turbo could be spooled enough and technique. But I would say high to mid 12's. With the HP, better. I ran a 13. 30 in Jeff's street truck at 435 HP at Commerce... Then found the boost level I launched at was low and the transmission wasn't shifting correctly with the tires we changed to.



. . Preston. .

 

[GButia]

6000 lbs. is way too light... ... you are gonna exclude the bigger trucks. I don't even know if any make extended cab can make 6000?

 

[Scrappy]

that is MINIMUM weight right? We can be heavier, right?

 

[Turbo Thom]

As heavy as you want to be. My 2500 is going to have to add weight. I don't know how much, but it will be done. No truck will be eliminated, but we have to have a limit. 6000 is heavy for me, so I guess all things are relative. I know we can't please all the folks that want to race. So we are just going to have to make rules that will fit the majority of trucks, and go with it. All I can say, is just do the best you can. I will.



. . Preston. .

 

[GButia]

My bad... min. weight. Sometimes I read things to fast... especially when I am purusing the TDR at work... ...