New Dodge Long Haul

[HGreen]

Just read about this on one of the online newsletters I get ---



A 5500 Mega Cab with pickup body.



Ram unveils a truck for the long haul | Trucking Straight Talk

 

[Grizzly]

I want one. How much?



george

 

[AH64ID]

Looks like it would be an awesome freeway setup!

Anyone else notice it said it would have the full 800 ft/lbs? Think its a typo???

 

[Chemical03]

I just found my next truck ! Love it ! Im guessing it will be $65-70,000. 00

 

[Chemical03]

AH64ID - I did notice that - it appears this is a truck they a marketing to Joe public more so than business/fleet managers (despite the article being in their magazine). I don't think they would be enthusiastic about the de-tuned commercial version of the CTD. IMHO Joe public is much more into numbers than the logic of a detuned engine- I know I still am to an extent (I always think bigger is better and want more bang for my buck so to speak). That being said I think the knowledge gained on this site and the magazine has helped me see things differently. Reading the article in TDR with RAM CEO Fred Diaz they seem to understand that there is a competition, whether they want it or not, for torque and horsepower numbers.

 

[GOlsen]

Did anyone else notice that it says it has a Dana 110 axle??

 

[rscurtis]

I agree with the 800 ft. /lb. being an error. For anyone interested, I got these photos of a 5500 crew cab and chassis at a local tractor show. What looks like a muffler is really the NOX catalyst. There is no muffler used on these trucks. The OXY cat and the DPF are under the cab. The DEF control unit is made in Austria and contains an ambient temp. sensor. Note the size of the brakes. No grease fittings on the u-joints, though.

 

[AH64ID]

AH64ID - I did notice that - it appears this is a truck they a marketing to Joe public more so than business/fleet managers (despite the article being in their magazine). I don't think they would be enthusiastic about the de-tuned commercial version of the CTD. IMHO Joe public is much more into numbers than the logic of a detuned engine- I know I still am to an extent (I always think bigger is better and want more bang for my buck so to speak). That being said I think the knowledge gained on this site and the magazine has helped me see things differently. Reading the article in TDR with RAM CEO Fred Diaz they seem to understand that there is a competition, whether they want it or not, for torque and horsepower numbers.

I still vote typo, I don't think they have made any adjustments to the Aisin to handle the extra tq, and the Long Haul has a 11,500lb higher GCWR than a regular 5500.

Did anyone else notice that it says it has a Dana 110 axle??

That's the standard 5500 rear axle.

 

[RustyJC]

According to the article, it's only a concept truck - thus, the 350/800 rating. Who knows how the production truck would be equipped? Perhaps for this model they would use the upgraded 68RFE so that (since they are targeting the consumer market) they could use the 350/800 engine. Conversely, the production truck might use the standard 5500 drivetrain and come with a derated engine. I guess we'll see... . maybe.



With that length, I'm not quite sure where I'd park it as our current truck barely fits with the 5th wheel in many RV sites. It would also take a 40 acre field to turn it around. All that being said, it's still an interesting piece and seems to indicate that the Ram product planners are listening.



Rusty

 

[Chemical03]

AH64ID - as i said before I am still learning, how does the GCWR indicate the horepower and torque of the motor?

 

[Chemical03]

I know you can currently buy the 5500 with a pick-up box I have seen them at dealerships online - it does not have the extra features mentioned in the article and comes with the commercial engine.

 

[AH64ID]

AH64ID - as i said before I am still learning, how does the GCWR indicate the horepower and torque of the motor?

Directly, it doesn't. But it's all about a drive-trains ability to handle tq over time, the heavier you are the more tq is applied over time. It's why the Max Tow and 4500/5500 trucks use 4. 10 and lower gears.

Time will tell, but I will be very surprised if it has more power than the standard C&C trucks. The C&C motors are not the same as the pickup motors, well rather the emissions equipment is not the same.

Great concept for sure!

 

[HBarlow]

Wow, I'm impressed. I think if Ram builds something like that with the strength of the 5500 or even 4500 under it, a pickup bed, and all the comfort and convenience features they will sell.

I'm also surprised the article suggested it will be rated at 800 torque and use the Aisin . . . unless an upgraded Aisin will become available. That could be just the writer's misunderstanding. I hope we see something like that on the market.

 

[RonD]

Great looking truck, my concerns would be turning in tight areas with a 5th wheel, being so long, the other would be the insurance rates, this is a 5500 truck, that may be an issue.

 

[Chemical03]

AH64ID -Thanks, that makes sense. So in reality the concept of detuning the engine, putting less fuel through it to increase longevity (the way I understand it), would apply to the drive train as well (in this case tq). What about the power needed to tow the load with an increased GCWR? Is it just a balancing act?

 

[CUMMINZ]

I don't think any of you noticed the rear tailgate cutout!!



As far as the HO in a 5500, the back of the tailgate has an HO sticker.



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[HBarlow]

Considering the fact that the truck in the article is a prototype not a production truck the High Output plate could be just a marketing trick to get our attention.

I HOPE some version of that truck is mass produced and with an HO engine. Time will tell.

 

[Chemical03]

No matter what it comes with I love it

 

[AH64ID]

I like it more every time I see it. I would be a production one would have a smooth transition between tank and bed.

 

[Wertles]

I will be the first to say it. If they build it, I will buy.