New Ford F600

[jgillott]

Ford diving in to the class 6 category with the Super Duty.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/auto/ford-f-600-returns-with-godzilla-v8.amp

 

[NIsaacs]

That's interesting, I wonder what the plan is? Something on the order of the F-450 pickup? It appears to have the axles/tires of the 550, so maybe a slight bump in GVW/GCW.

 

[jhenderson]

Since when has less than 450 cu in become a Godzilla motor?

 

[TFucili]

Since when has less than 450 cu in become a Godzilla motor?

Since people think a 2.7 turbo gas motor a "monster".

 

[Wayne M.]

I don’t see the point of this truck, other than Ford is feeling the pinch from the Ram 5500, and Ford had to try something. I’m interested to see if they bump up the GVW’s. We push our 550’s to the limit, and we see the results, as well as becoming I’ll handling.

 

[mwilson]

A "Godzilla" gasser to me is a LV-549, LV-478, Ford 534, etc.....

 

[jgillott]

The current F550's are 18500 GVWR correct?

 

[JR]

Ford looking to take back some of the vocational market they've lost. It is crazy the type of Ram C&C I see with different bodies. Stuff I only used to see Fords with. Everytime I see a different truck it reminds me of the thread that was floating around for a while RE Ram/commercial bodies. I've got a few pictures but most of the time I'm either driving or don't have the phone handy.

 

[NIsaacs]

The current F550's are 18500 GVWR correct?

I Think the top end of class 5 is 19,500. By going to class 6 they might have different rules that will fit for their plan. Plus GM has a light duty class 6.

 

[JR]

Plus GM has a light duty class 6.

It will be interesting to see how much of the running gear is Navistar stuff. I read an article a month or so ago, they (Navistar/GM) are looking into a class 7 rig.

 

[Wayne M.]

This GM 6500 truck don’t stand a chance against Ford, from the gov fleet standpoint. The #1 aspect in considering a purchase, is support in variety of layouts, warranty, tech, and parts. In these areas nobody can compete with Ford.
If there is a FCA commercial dealer that is half interested, they may be alright, but still no chance against the blue oval monster.

 

[NIsaacs]

I don’t see the point of this truck, other than Ford is feeling the pinch from the Ram 5500, and Ford had to try something. I’m interested to see if they bump up the GVW’s. We push our 550’s to the limit, and we see the results, as well as becoming I’ll handling.

Here is some info on the F-600, looks like 22K GVW and 10 speed.
https://www.trucks.com/2019/03/05/2019-work-truck-show-f-600-missing-link-ford/

 

[TFucili]

We had a '72 F-600, 330 gasser, Clark wide ratio 4 spd, 6.17 rears w/no two speed, 8.25-20 rubber, 20,200 lbs GVW. She was tough, but what a complete dog.

 

[Wayne M.]

We had a '72 F-600, 330 gasser, Clark wide ratio 4 spd, 6.17 rears w/no two speed, 8.25-20 rubber, 20,200 lbs GVW. She was tough, but what a complete dog.

Chassis wise, that old 600 was probably more like a true medium 650 today. This new 600 is still a pick up based C&C.

 

[jgillott]

We had a '72 F-600, 330 gasser, Clark wide ratio 4 spd, 6.17 rears w/no two speed, 8.25-20 rubber, 20,200 lbs GVW. She was tough, but what a complete dog.

That's because it didn't have the Godzilla motor.

 

[Wayne M.]

Here’s the door jamb sticker for a current F550.

 

[TFucili]

Chassis wise, that old 600 was probably more like a true medium 650 today. This new 600 is still a pick up based C&C.

It was a for-sure medium chassis. It was a tough SOB, as overloaded does not even begin to describe what we put that truck through. I could tell lots of stories, but you get the idea.

 

[TFucili]

A "Godzilla" gasser to me is a LV-549, LV-478, Ford 534, etc.....

I would have gladly settled for a 391, 5+2, a decent sized saddle tank, and air brakes. Oh, and it should have been an F-750...

 

[mwilson]

Truck Driving for Dummies....

Ford believes the new driver-assist technologies will make the truck easier to drive than a larger sibling, lowering both training and operating costs over those for a much larger vehicle.

“Finding new drivers is less imposing of a task when the truck that individual will be asked to operate is closer to what they drive on a daily basis,” Koester said.

 

[jhenderson]

Yup, that’s just what a company wants. A guy that treats driving their delivery/service truck just like he’s driving his pickup. What could go wrong?