New Recall Announced Today

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Fellow Rammers:



Has anyone expereinced this problem or does anyone know of anyone who has experienced this problem? I realize there have been occurances of this problem or DC would not have created the "fix", but I can't help but to wonder if this this is trying to fool-proof gear selection. I haven't played w/ my wife's truck yet, but I'm going to see if it's possible to position the gear selector between park and reverse. Also, I'm gonna ease out of park slowly to see at what point, if any, the truck goes into reverse shy of actually being in reverse. I'll do the same going from reverse to park, slowly moving the selector to see at what point reverse disengages and it finds park.



I won't have her truck until Saturday and will report results to this forum. I'm thinking of creating a survey where everyone tries this and see how many find a "problem. "



I will be thinking of choices for the survey and will post Saturday.



Wiredawg

It happened to me one time with the 06 as I was backing up to a trailer. I started to get out and realized the gear selector was pulled back but not all the way in park. I had no problem because I am used to using the parking brake since the truck is always going to roll an inch or two the wrong way it seems.

 

[Wiredawg]

No problem on mine

All:



I tried to make this happen to my wife's truck Satureday, but couldn't get it to stick. This is a good thing. Still, I think it's a good idea to set the parking brake on whatever you drive whenever you get out of it.



Wiredawg

 

[Crunch]

Just a thought, but wouldn't it have been more logical to connect the warning to having the seat belts locked instead of the door being open? You're always supposed to use seat belts when driving, but there are many potential situations where having the door open while out of park is preferable, i. e. hooking up to a trailer.

 

[Fred]

Recall

Had recall work done today... upon leaving, when I cranked the truck, it shuddered and when I turned it off, it shuddered even worse... nightmare!!

 

[SWeddell]

I wasn't planning on having this recall done. I went into the dealer with my 04. 5 for getting the door seals replaced, high idle enabled, cup holder fixed and a transmission service. I told them twice I didn't want this recall done. The guy writing it up said no problem. I went to pick up the truck the next day and going through the paperwork it showed they had done the recall. I called him over and told him I didn't want it done, so why did they do it?



He said that day he was only working half a day, so he let another service guy write up my paperwork after he left. The other service guy thought I wanted to have it done so they did it. I wasn't happy, but since I was under the weather I wasn't up to stand there and argue. I asked him if it could be undone. He went and checked with the service manager and came back with a NO, but I expected that. He said that they had to legally do it. I called BS and then he mentioned that maybe if we had filled out some paperwork stating I didn't want to have it done we might have been able to get around it. Just more salesman lies I imagine.



I tested it out when I got home and found that it doesn't go off if the door is open and your foot is just lightly touching the brake or the seat belt is connected while rolling in reverse. I suppose before I get in to hook up to my trailer I will just connect the seat belt and that way the ECM will think I am in the seat the whole time and won't care if the door is open or closed and whether I am rolling.

 

[Matt400]

I suppose before I get in to hook up to my trailer I will just connect the seat belt and that way the ECM will think I am in the seat the whole time and won't care if the door is open or closed and whether I am rolling.

:-laf :-laf I suppose I will fool my smart truck to allow for a silent trailer connect, next year they will see your fool and raise to a seat pressure indicator so they know a body is actually in the seat.

 

[JVantreese]

This is a good fix with no down side.

I took my vehicle to the dealer today and got the "fix" done. Rest assured that it is not the problem child that some post have suggested. First of all it takes three events to activate the alarm. The vehicle must be in Reverse, the door must be open, and the vehicle must be moving. Furthermore the alarm will not sound if there is any pressure on the brake.



Some people are concerned that the alarm would prevent them from checking the transmission fluid. Since this procedure is done with the transmission in neutral, the alarm will not sound.



Some people suggested that they need to back up their truck with the door open. Simply ride the brake and this maneuver can be achieved without sounding the alarm. If I ever decided to hang out of the cab when backing up, I would want my foot riding the brake!



Some people were concerned that the mere act of opening the door while having the vehicle in reverse would sound the alarm. Again this will not occur unless the vehicle is in motion without any pressure on the brakes.



I simply can not find any reason to not get this recall done. I would sure feel bad if I failed to get this fix done and find that some driver of my truck hurt someone else or themself when this warning device might have helped.



This said, I know some owners will choose not to get the fix and that is your right. To each their own.

 

[barleysoda]

I had to take my truck in to get the flash that fixes the white smoke/ fuel mileage problem. They told me I had to get the recall done and that I couldnt say no to it. I really wanted better fuel mileage so i let them have it.

The good knews is that the alarm doesnt work. It never goes off when I put it in drive and open the door. One time it did chirp the horn for a second when I tried it in reverse.

I did however remove the stock horns and replaced them with some electric compressor deal with two horns. They were cheap but alot louder then stock and sound more like a big rig. Anyway I noticed that now when I set the alarm on the truck and lock the door these new horns wont chirp like the old ones did. I think the horn has to be engaged longer then the alarm chirp will allow. I do hear the compressor fire when I arm the truck though.

I am thinking this is why the stupid recall alarm deal doesnt work right on my truck. Thats cool because I dont want it to work.

 

[barleysoda]

I took my vehicle to the dealer today and got the "fix" done. Rest assured that it is not the problem child that some post have suggested. First of all it takes three events to activate the alarm. The vehicle must be in Reverse, the door must be open, and the vehicle must be moving. Furthermore the alarm will not sound if there is any pressure on the brake.



Some people are concerned that the alarm would prevent them from checking the transmission fluid. Since this procedure is done with the transmission in neutral, the alarm will not sound.



Some people suggested that they need to back up their truck with the door open. Simply ride the brake and this maneuver can be achieved without sounding the alarm. If I ever decided to hang out of the cab when backing up, I would want my foot riding the brake!



Some people were concerned that the mere act of opening the door while having the vehicle in reverse would sound the alarm. Again this will not occur unless the vehicle is in motion without any pressure on the brakes.



I simply can not find any reason to not get this recall done. I would sure feel bad if failed to get this fix done and find that some driver of my truck hurt someone else or themself when this warning device might have helped.



This said, I know some owners will choose not to get the fix and that is your right. To each their own.

I didnt read this post until after I posted my response. It wasnt my aftermarket horn that was causing the recall alarm not to function... I was always still in the truck with my foot on the brake.

 

[OHale]

I took my vehicle to the dealer today and got the "fix" done... .

Thanks for the great info. I'm going to take my truck in tor the 'vibe' soon and will get this done. I was already leaning towards getting it done, but you answered all the questions I was going to ask the dealer.

 

[WhiteSheep]

Barlysoda: Very well said. Thanks for the reality check.

 

[brods]

I took my vehicle to the dealer today and got the "fix" done. Rest assured that it is not the problem child that some post have suggested. First of all it takes three events to activate the alarm. The vehicle must be in Reverse, the door must be open, and the vehicle must be moving. Furthermore the alarm will not sound if there is any pressure on the brake. Others have said the seatbelt being latched will prevent the alarm, is that true?



Some people are concerned that the alarm would prevent them from checking the transmission fluid. Since this procedure is done with the transmission in neutral, the alarm will not sound. Under these conditions does the alarm sound if the truck is moving? Does the ebrake have to be on? (not that I would want to do it without the ebrake, just wondering)



Some people suggested that they need to back up their truck with the door open. Simply ride the brake and this maneuver can be achieved without sounding the alarm. If I ever decided to hang out of the cab when backing up, I would want my foot riding the brake!



Some people were concerned that the mere act of opening the door while having the vehicle in reverse would sound the alarm. Again this will not occur unless the vehicle is in motion without any pressure on the brakes. Humm, so if the truck is in reverse, no foot on the brake, engine running, but if the truck is not rolling there is no alarm??



I simply can not find any reason to not get this recall done. I would sure feel bad if failed to get this fix done and find that some driver of my truck hurt someone else or themself when this warning device might have helped. Then don't loan your truck to anyone so careless that they need this alarm. Besides, nothing is fool proof since fools are so ingenious!



This said, I know some owners will choose not to get the fix and that is your right. To each their own.

An unintended consequence of all this "safety" will be more accidents when people get into older vehicles where the operator has to use common sense!



This alarm still does nothing to address the sloppy shifter and probably does not sound the alarm if the truck starts to roll with the engine off. Maybe for grocery getters this alarm presents no inconvenience at all, but for those who work with their trucks and often move a few feet with the door open, this disco inferno, DCX CYA bandaid, will be an unwelcome annoyance.

 

[plntmgr]

I'd rather them not flash my system, but I put in my last 8 digits, first 8, middle 8 and all my #'s and it came out that it was not a valid VIN#. What gives?????? Don

 

[Bob4x4]

I'd rather them not flash my system, but I put in my last 8 digits, first 8, middle 8 and all my #'s and it came out that it was not a valid VIN#. What gives?????? Don

One thing to keep in mind when entering vin is that they are zeros not o's



Bob

 

[JLehman]

Just what we need , more bells and whistles!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[p-Bar]

Just what we need , more bells and whistles!!!!!!!!!!!

At no extra charge

 

[ACerf]

I had this mod done on the 20th of April. And if does work. The shift indicator lights flash and the horn blows. It took about an hour as they said in the recall. When we first got our truck. I was unloading stuff from the bed, and the truck started to roll back, my wife ramed the shift into park. This caused me to fall backwards and I hit my head on the tailgate. But I was sure that I had put the truck in park... guess not!

 

[BStoecker]

How do I get this damned recall removed from my truck? The POS dealership service writer had this done to my truck without ever mentioning it to me. I do NOT want this crap on my truck. I had the damn thing go off twice on me today. Scared the crap out of me both times. What ticks me off is it is a 30 mile drive each way to the dealership to get this un-done unless I can have any dealership do it. I am so PO'd right now I am seeing red. Don't touch my truck unless you have my permission. Don't alter anything on my truck unless you have my permission. The service writer is already at the bottom of my #2 list to start with. He's going to be in for an earful when they open at 8am tomorrow morning.

 

[Matt400]

Don't touch my truck unless you have my permission.

Ya. . baby! Thats what I say. I seriously doubt you can un-do it however all is not lost.



Try this fix-

Locate the drivers side seat belt buckle and note the 2 wires that run into it, get yourself a "scotch-loc" from a parts store that is used to splice one wire into another circuit. Open the scotch-loc and note the tab thats in the way of laying 2 complete wires through it. That tab is there to butt a single wire up to it. Carve out the little tab inside the scotch loc and clamp it across the buckles wire harness.



This completes the circuit and fools the truck into thinking the seat belt is buckled.

 

[Bob4x4]

How do I get this damned recall removed from my truck? The POS dealership service writer had this done to my truck without ever mentioning it to me. I do NOT want this crap on my truck. I had the damn thing go off twice on me today. Scared the crap out of me both times. What ticks me off is it is a 30 mile drive each way to the dealership to get this un-done unless I can have any dealership do it. I am so PO'd right now I am seeing red. Don't touch my truck unless you have my permission. Don't alter anything on my truck unless you have my permission. The service writer is already at the bottom of my #2 list to start with. He's going to be in for an earful when they open at 8am tomorrow morning.

It can not be undone,since DCX sees it as a safety issue. The 06's come with it from the factory. You just have to learn the ways not to trip it.



Bob