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New SAE towing Standard J2807.

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If you think our towing guidelines are optimistic check out what they tow in England with tiny cars. If the towing limit for a car here is 1,500 pounds then it'll be 1,500kg (3,300#) over there. England is pretty flat so I guess it's ok.
 
It's nice to see a standard. Something tells me that my trucks rating would be higher looking at the requirements.
 
I instinctively resent and resist regulation but perhaps this new SAE standard will be beneficial to light truck buyers considering a truck and trailer combination.

The new SAE standard might even dampen Furd's and Govt. Motors' enthusiasm for further wild towing weights a bit as well.
 
It's encouraging to see the engineers trying to bring some rationality to towing ratings - the marketing guys have been blowing smoke with those numbers for far too long.



Rusty
 
I agree Rusty, its similar to in the 04ish time frame when SAE standards were released for determining hp/tq. Some engines lost power, and some gained, but at least now apples are apples.
 
The only question mark that I see is the statement that a supplied test vehicle must be supplied with the lowest numerical gear ratio available from the manufacturer. What does that mean to Dodge's 3. 50 gears? Or am I reading it wrong? To me, lower gears are higher numerically and vice versa. In the past, you always had to option the lower gears to get the higher tow rating.
 
I think they meant lowest numerical which would be the 3. 42:1 gearset for a Dodge Ram. That makes sense because that gear choice would provide the weakest towing setup and/or lowest tow rating.
 
I think they meant lowest numerical which would be the 3. 42:1 gearset for a Dodge Ram. That makes sense because that gear choice would provide the weakest towing setup and/or lowest tow rating.



As you guys point out which way is the lowest????? they are probably doing 410s this number should be standardized for the test. Ford always brings to the hill test the lowest number they can get, like 488s or 532s, to get the best hill climb numbers. see what I mean. And as you say Apples to Apples. Make it uniform the same ratio should all apply for the test to get numbers if this what they are trying to generate.

Also the truck configuration should be the same, Long bed versus long bed, Dually versus dually, Etc.
 
Personally, I'd rather see them generate SAE J2807 ratings for each available body style, bed length, drivetrain and axle ratio package rather than a "one size fits all" rating for a Ram 3500 DRW based on the worst possible combination which would be pretty meaningless.



Rusty
 
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