New signature rules/features

[KatDiesel]

Regardless of what Steve does... he'll be "Wrong" according to someone.



He could have just installed the signature stuff and left it at that. But no he realized that wouldn't be enough, so there is a whole new section listed when you click on a users profile : truck mods. I don't "think" there is a limit on this one. . I'd have to ask.



I don't think most of you realize how much time Steve has put in over the last few weeks ... .





If you don't wanna display your signature in a thread... simply uncheck the show sig box when you post.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

As an alternative, for those determined to show the full list in their sigs inside their posts, simply type up yer desired sig in a word processor, then do a block save, then paste it manually in yer post!



Like THIS:



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http://community.webshots.com/user/davison71



'02 HO Quad cab 2500 ETH-DEE, all extras except leather! Could these be the LAST of the "real diesels" from Dodge/Cummins... ?



Icom 706 MKIIG "DC-to-daylight" Ham transceiver, Ameritron ALS-500 mobile amp... 40/20 meters... 7. 175/14. 182 mhz...

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

Actually Gary, we'd ask that you do not try to skirt the guidelines by doing that. It defeats the whole purpose of it. BTW, interesting results from the poll you put up. Last I looked the majority wanted signatures but with a limit, exactly what we did. Followed closely by only once per thread, which we also did.

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

Check again Steve. 18 of 36 prefer the old sigs. I go with either like them and leave them as they were before or limit to once per page.



only 16 of 36 (so far) like the 'new' sigs.



NO sigs I HATE them! 1 2. 86%

YES, I like the info supplied in sigs! 2 5. 71%

Yes, but only once per thread 11 31. 43%

Yes - no limits, within reason... 5 14. 29%



Yes, but length-limited. 16 45. 71%



Total: 35 votes 100%

 

[JR2]

How about we go back to what the orig rules (that NO ONE followed) where... your sig has to be two lines... .



I really like the TDR better with the sigs gone or shortend. It makes reading easier and for a a guy who spends as much time on here as I do I really already know what mods the regulars have. If I need more info it is not that much trouble to open their porfile and see what they got.....



Now look at my sig, what more do you need to know???

 

[MCummings]

I like the new current standard.



I like the idea of having a short description in your "sig" and then a truck description under your profile.



Keep up the hard, and good work.



Merrick Cummings Jr

 

[TDRadmin]

Signatures

For those of you who have been supportive of this decision, thank you for your public support. It is sincerely appreciated.



Now, for those of you struggling with this decision, let me clarify. This change was made at my direction.



Perspective:



When I work at home, I have the luxury of a DSL connection. My home is close enough to a BellSouth station that I can purchase this service, and it is wonderful.



When I work at the TDR offices, I have the luxury of a dial-up connection (chuckle). Our office is pretty rural. Neither DSL nor cable are available in this office park yet. It is very frustrating to be working on a relatively slow connection, then have that process further slowed by script/fonts/pictures that may/may not have anything to do with trucks or diesel-related stuff.



I spend at least 4 hours a day accessing the Internet; I understand both sides of this issue.



That is why I asked Steve to implement a change that would make using our website a bit easier for the dial-up customers WITHOUT taking anything away from our DSL/Cable customers.



The plan:



1. Create a new field where folks could include any/all necessary detail regarding their truck. This field could include fancy fonts, links, etc. as desired by the TDR user.



2. Reduce the current signature line to allow for the "vital statistics" only. This would allow faster page loads for those of us still using dial-up connections. Not to mention, it is easier to read a thread without having to sort through the extended signatures.



Steve implemented my decision.



I have read and sincerely considered your feedback. You said you didn't have enough room at 200 characters. I authorized increasing that limit by 50%. This seemed like a reasonable request and still achieved my objectives.



I am open to changing a policy decision, but ONLY after we've given a decision time to settle in and really determine what the fallout is. One day is not long enough.



If you experience problems due to this policy change, please e-mail me directly at rpatton@ix.netcom.com. I will respond to each e-mail. Send facts and include a logical analysis of problems/potential solutions. I have no tolerance for emotional dissertations or whining on this issue.



If you're on a high-speed connection and are having trouble with this decision, pull out your old modem, and dial in. Perspective is always helpful.



We are working to add features that we trust you will enjoy. And we try to avoid changes, whenever possible, that could adversely affect your ability to enjoy the website. When we do have to make a change that is considered negative, please realize that we do not do so lightly. Every consideration is given to alternatives.

 

[BFC]

Now, for those of you struggling with this decision, let me clarify. This change was made at my direction

Refreshing to see personnal accountability in this world we live in, regardless of where you stand on the sig issue, gotta respect that. Cudos for not passing the buck Robin.



Glenn

 

[TxDieselKid]

Originally posted by BFC





Refreshing to see personnal accountability in this world we live in, regardless of where you stand on the sig issue, gotta respect that. Cudos for not passing the buck Robin.



Glenn

I second that, and I also like the new rules, i hated seeing some of those who had bill-boards in their sig.



Andrew

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

I certainly have no problem going along with a reasonable majority - but as for "perspective", *I* live in a rural area, have a dial-up setup, NEVER see a connection faster than 26. 4 kbaud - and STILL deal with those nasty long sigs just fine...



I guess patience and flexibility are in the eye of the beholder...



Do what ya gotta do...

 

[RottnDogue]

Although I disagree with the decision, yes I know you find that hard to believe... I do appreciate that Robin is willing to take the heat for it, and that Steve has taken a LOT of time to explain it to me repeatedly..... I still disagree, but hey that's life... I'll get over it... ... someday :{



Darren

 

[ramcam6]

Sig line

Steve, You do a fantastic job. I post very rarely probably because I'm a fairly new owner. I read and learn often. This site is the best. I think all of the moderators are fair. I hope Steve doesn't get ill from loss of sleep. TDR is the greatest!



Oh, by the way the latest compromise is soooo reasonable!

 

[DarrellB]

Jeeeeeeees!!!!!

Is this site for talking about trucks or nagging Steve till you guys get your way?



If they removed the sigs all together I would still be here.



Steve, could you explain the hole sig thing one more time.



Just Joking



Keep up the good work.



Darrell

 

[Big_Daddy_T]

If im not mistaken 2 or three hundred characters will put us about right on two lines. I like the new setup. I have a 1. 5 mbps connection so time wasnt a problem but its so much easier to read these long threads without all that crap. I had a long sig and dont mind doin some trimmin. If ever i wanted to see someones setup i just hit profile and there it is. I wouldnt mind no sigs at all. If you want to see its a button away. Good work steve and i liked your article on the fuel pressure guage install it made it so easy for a novice like me. thank you

 

[SlyBones]

I like the new rules. Also checking out my new sig.

 

[Frantz Filters]

Hello again, it's me Deborah. I know that I am new to all of this, but in the last five months, I have come to the conclusion that it is truly impossible to please everyone, no matter how hard you try. I have delt with several hundred inquiries from customers, and no matter how hard I have tried to make everyone happy, I still have managed to TICK a few off! Steve and Robin are doing there best! You either will have to deal with it or go to another web site. I have been looking into many other sites and I have to admit that the TDR is one of the best! And I am not just saying that to "Suck Up" to anyone. If all were pleased, I would not have enjoyed this thread as much as I did! I do like the idea of having a separate category for those who would like to show off their nice trucks and all they have done to personalize them!

It would be

Take Care and have a Great Day!

 

[illflem]

Deborah, wanted to visit your site, the link in your sig doesn't work, think it needs the http. When I tried going to it by typing in the address it told me I had to download a foreign language program to view it???

 

[NVR FNSH]

Steve, Robin, et al;



Keep up the good work. I have really enjoyed the last several months WITHOUT 3 page signatures describing every dingle ball a guy (or gal) has hanging from the rear view mirror.



Might I suggest an additional 'government' intrusion? Make the signature a standard size font/color/no smilie things. Take a look at certain members posts on this thread and you'll know exactly what I'm referring to.



Brian

 

[JIM S.]

What NVR FNSH said!!!!!!!!!!

Jim

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

I personally would like that idea too. However, it would be VERY unpopular with many users. I can hardly imagine the amount of heat I/we would take over that decision - I take enough heat as it is . However, I am going to discuss with the owners regarding extremely large fonts, etc. Personalization with colors/fonts, etc I think is a good thing as long as it's not taken to an extreme.