New Super Silent Fass Pumps!!!!!!!!!!

[RonA]

Hahahhaha That is freakin funny. Mixing cement. I have had many aftermarket external pumps including race cars and none of them have been quiet. Even Holley, Aeromotive, Walbro their all loud to some degree but they do the job. If noise is a factor then build a box around it and install a couple of heat extracting 12v fans and the noise will be a thing of the past.

Actually, a mechanical pump is easier, quieter, cheaper, and more reliable.

 

[BHaner]

The one I have now is really quiet.

 

[ScottWA]

well i guess what I want to know is are they still taking them in for the new parts to make them quieter?

 

[Big Hamp]

Fass

I bought my FASS a year or so ago, always been very loud. Last week it got quieter and later burned up the relay. Replaced it then it blew 2 fuses. It did this 600 miles from home while pulling a 36' 5er. Found a dealer to check it out, Dave's Diesel in Muncie, Idiana. They said it was pulling too much current. The motor was on it's way out . They called FASS and since I didn't send my warranty paperwork in, I had to buy a new pump and motor assembly. After 4 1/2 hours and $500, they got me back on the road. I'm not a happy camper since I bought the FASS after 2 stock lift pumps, and the FASS didn't last as long as stock ones did !!! I have an '03 HO auto with exhaust, cold air intake, edge juice with attitude. I pull campers all over the USA and I don't know whether to have much faith in this new pump and motor.

 

[Big Hamp]

Anyone have any ideas on reliability of my FASS??

 

[steved]

Anyone have any ideas on reliability of my FASS??

I've got well over 100k on mine... FWIW. That's on one of the first versions with the internal (i. e. non-replaceable) brushes...



I bought a FASS for reliability, noise is not a concern as long as I keep rolling down the highway... just one way to look at it.

 

[Eric Lee]

I've had my FASS for 60K -70K miles now and I've had a couple problems :



Water entered through the brush caps during the winter and froze it up pretty good. I think they have updated to eliminate this issue. Unit started blowing fuses, I called Piers and he said to check for water - I took it off and called him back and said 'no water - what's next?' He said "what's next is I send you a replacement till we get it figured out" Well it sat in the warm on the kitchen table for a little while and the water appeared. I felt like a real numbnut - he already had a good used unit on it's way.



Next problem was I put the fuse down by the frame rail and it got moisture in it and caused problems - I filled the little fuse container with dielectric grease and fixed that. I would suggest wiring fuse at battery for safety and this moisture issue.



Both problems were identified by a good mechanical gauge - keep an eye on it - at least when you first start it up. A good driver will scan the gauges regularly anyway.



Even with the few problems, I have to say that if I manufactured this unit myself I would be very satisfied. It's a hell of a product - all products have some issues and those are the people you hear from - satisfied customers like myself are silent.



Most important - who you buy your stuff from - don't sell yourself out to the lowest price guy - be loyal to your vendor and make sure you hook up with someone like Piers who cuts the crap, extends himself for his customers and doesn't pass the buck. I know Piers is not at PDR anymore but I would assume the company is run the same. I have made all my mods a long time ago so I haven't bought much lately.



- Eric

 

[LowFly]

I bought my FASS a year or so ago, always been very loud. Last week it got quieter and later burned up the relay. Replaced it then it blew 2 fuses. It did this 600 miles from home while pulling a 36' 5er. Found a dealer to check it out, Dave's Diesel in Muncie, Idiana. They said it was pulling too much current. The motor was on it's way out . They called FASS and since I didn't send my warranty paperwork in, I had to buy a new pump and motor assembly. After 4 1/2 hours and $500, they got me back on the road. I'm not a happy camper since I bought the FASS after 2 stock lift pumps, and the FASS didn't last as long as stock ones did !!! I have an '03 HO auto with exhaust, cold air intake, edge juice with attitude. I pull campers all over the USA and I don't know whether to have much faith in this new pump and motor.

I am very sorry to hear you've had problems with your FASS system. How is the truck running now that the pump has been replaced??



As to the durability of the FASS system..... They are designed to last a long time. Unlike the competition..... our pumps are made from T6 Billet, Aircraft grade aluminum. We use brass for all of our fittings and cotton impregnated fuel line in all of our kits. we have been in business since 2003 and we have pumps that were built from the owners garage that are STILL on the road to this day.



We are constantly improving our product to make it quieter, more powerful and more durable than it already is.

 

[LowFly]

I have been hearing a lot of……. . pardon the pun………. noise about the noise level of the FASS pumps and I thought that I would touch on it for a moment. I am in the technical department here at FASS and we get a number of calls from customers that say our pumps are loud and I hear about it on the diesel forum boards as well. I usually tell people that it is a high performance fuel pump and it will have a little noise to it…. have you ever heard a quiet hot rod?? But we here at FASS do take our customers very serious and we listen to what they have to say.

Here at FASS we always strive to provide the customer with the best possible product and we will continue to for many years to come. We are always doing R & D to improve the pumps we make and to develop newer systems to meet the high demands of the performance diesel market. We realize that noise has been an issue in the past but there have been some really great improvements to help reduce the noise level of our pumps. These improvements have worked very well.

You also have to realize that the FASS family of fuel pumps is moving a lot more fuel than your stock pumps and we are doing it at high pressure so it will be louder than a stock lift pump.

 

[TCDiesel]

Lowfly,You need to clarify (High Performance fuel pump) if Fass market their Pumps for (recommend off road use) complaints would be minimized , also all the frame mounted Pumps are subject to road debris, I have seen those units completely frozen with Ice and road chemicals. In MN the temps may drop -0 daily for Dec/Jan, What is FASS standard for their High Performance Pumps in -0 temps and mandatory Bio-Diesel? Clear #2?

 

[LowFly]

Lowfly,You need to clarify (High Performance fuel pump) if Fass market their Pumps for (recommend off road use) complaints would be minimized , also all the frame mounted Pumps are subject to road debris, I have seen those units completely frozen with Ice and road chemicals. In MN the temps may drop -0 daily for Dec/Jan, What is FASS standard for their High Performance Pumps in -0 temps and mandatory Bio-Diesel? Clear #2?

We have the FASS system on off road vehicles but i am not too sure if they are rated for off road use because i dont know what it means to be rated for off road use.



High Performance Fuel Pump means just that... it is better than the stock pump by a lot. The standard stock pump will move 20 GPH and our lowest pump will move 90 GPH. That to me is high performance.



of course the frame mounted pumps are subject to road debris... . that's why we make the pumps out of T6 Billet. it is very tough stuff. As far as temperature goes... . It doesn't matter what temp the pump goes to..... if it gets that cold NOTHING will stop the fuel from gelling short of an additive. Our pump is not supposed to prevent icing up..... it will work with it completely covered in road grime or veggie oil or even ice... i know... i have seen it personally.



Bio Diesel works just fine with our pumps as does #2 obviously. My predecessor ran bio out of his 99 Dodge for well over three years through a FASS 95 series with no issues or problems.

 

[RBardwell]

Well we have some very exciting news about what we have been working on the past few months. We have had a breakthrough with our R&D. We have found a way to lower pump noise up to 11 decibels from our testing. Our fuel pumps are consistently much quieter. For Example: Brads truck. He has a 2006 Dodge 3500. With the engine off and the windows down sitting in the cab, you can not hear the FASS running. So you can imagine with the engine running, the pump can’t be heard at all.



Granted, most of the pumps we released were quiet. We have seen some of you wish that your pumps were a bit quieter. We have listened and now have a program to reduce the noise. Here are the details:



For those with a seal on your pump (Lead seal and wire between the two horizontal motor bolts on the HPFP base or T-Block assembly of the FASS System. We have record of what pumps have seals and what pumps do not. ), you will need to send in your upper half of your pump for the update if it is a FASS. The unit does not need to be removed from the truck to remove the T-Block portion. HPFP's can be sent in as is. We do not want seals to be broken by anyone outside of our shop. If this happens, warranty will be void on that unit. We understand that this is an inconvenience (This is one of the reasons why we adjusted our warranty policy that is discussed later in this post) and this update will not cost anything but the initial shipping to send it to us. We will do what is necessary to make sure your pump is quieter when it is returned. We will run full tests to ensure a healthy pump. What we will need to accompany the pump is the following information:



-Serial Number of pump

-Name

-Correct Return Address (No P. O. Boxes)

-Put Number 2007-10,000 on outside of box



Please send in the full HPFP, with no fittings and mounting brackets installed.



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We only need the upper half of the FASS system to be sent in.



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This is the portion directly above the water separator that bolts to the filter base. It’s held on by 4 vertical (Up and Down) bolts, not the 4 horizontal (Left to Right) bolts with the seal! Removed this portion and send in to us for the update.



For those without the seals on the pump, we give you two options. You can send in your pump like above or purchase an update kit for $15. 00. This includes everything needed to update the pump in about 30-45 minutes. The order will be processed and an update kit will be drop shipped directly to you. Very simple. Instructions will have more details about tools needed and what’s involved. What you will need to do is send in a $15. 00 Check or money order to:



Diesel Performance Products

ATTN: Noise Update #2007-10,000

16240 Hwy O, Suite B

Marthasville, MO 63357

Include the following information:



-Serial Number of pump

-Name

-Correct Return Address (No P. O. Boxes)



Lastly, we are so confident in the changes we have made to improve the FASS/HPFP in the past year that we have decided to increase the warranty from 4 years to 6 years!! But this is not for just the new units being released or units being updated. This will be back dated to pump sold to July 2005. The serial number brakes are as follows:



95 Series FASS System: - ALL

150 Series FASS Systems: - Serial Numbers Back to 5,000

HPFP Models: - Serial Numbers Back to 1,000



We understand there are other options for fuel pumps on the market and appreciate your loyalty to our product. We are constantly improving and refining our pump to be the best on the market. This program and warranty upgrade is a way to say thanks for sticking with us. Here's to a New Year!

I know this is a little old, but I did send in my info and money for the parts for the upgraded pump over 1. 5 months ago. I got one call from you guys but have not received my parts. I was wondering if there is anyone I could get a hold of to speed this up. I understand things can get misplaced or forgotten. Just want to see what we can do to get this ball rollin.



Thanks...