New Toyo Tires For Me..Which?

[Drewhenry]

Guys and Gals,



I am again on the search for useful information on tires. I drive on the beach... Padre Island National Seashore, Corpus Christi,Texas alot. We are almost 14 inches past due on rain and the sand is deep and powdery. Compounding this is the fact that the speed limit has been reduced to 15mph to help spot Kemp's Ridley sea turtles, an endangered species. I have heard horror stories about mud tires and our heavy diesel trucks and yet I see many trucks so equipped traversing the beach. I am considering two tire types both of which are Toyo brand.



1st Open Country AT

325/70R17 122R D/8 13. 0 wide X 34. 9 tall

I don't tow or pull heavy, so I am considering this load range D tire.



2nd Open Country MT

35x12. 50R17 125Q E/10 13. 2 wide X 34. 8 tall

I like this tire due to the load range but am not sure about use in the sand?



3rd Open Country Mt

LT295/70R17 128P E/10 12 wide X 33. 5 tall

This one is appealing but nearly impossible to find and does not have the footprint I think I need.





Anyone that has used any of these tires in dry powdery sand and or wet sand and would like to share their thoughts I would most appreciate. Currently I am running Cooper ATR 265/70R17 E. Needless to say they suck in the really soft sand and I spend lots of time idling in 4lo 1st gear to crawl back on top of the soft stuff. Airing down to 35psi didn't help much either.



Andy B

 

[Yo Hoot]

I run the 35's. They are super quality tires. I've had my truck on the sand with no issues but they do need to be aired down. The heavy diesel doesn't help. They are very accurate. Hardly need any weights to balance. Heck one tire took no weight at all! They are heavy tires (10 ply) and don't have the smoothest ride if that's what you are looking for. The D rated might be a little less harsh.

 

[Bob4x4]

I have both toyo AT's and MT's. Neither one is a good sand tire. They work very well everywhere else.



And 35 psi is not low enough... ... ... .....

 

[WoodChuck]

The 295 is only rated to 93 MPH, that wouldn't do for me.

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[SRubenstein]

I've been running 35" Toyo MT tires for about 5 years now, both on my retired 01 and my current 05. I switched over from BFG Mud Terrains due to the horendous noise. I plow w/ my 05 and they bite the snow and move massive piles of snow w/ little, to no slip. I feel very strong on selecting the Load Range E tires. The heavy weight of the cummins sitting on top of that heavy front axle is a recipe for death wobble without a properly rated tire. I have not experienced them on sand, but just about every other terrain and I swear by them. Good luck.

 

[Bob4x4]

A tires speed rating is for extended use not a quick romp to test your speed limiter setting :-laf

 

[WoodChuck]

Yes but personally I wouldn't want anything less than a Q.

 

[amsoilman]

Guys and Gals,



I am again on the search for useful information on tires. I drive on the beach... Padre Island National Seashore, Corpus Christi,Texas alot. We are almost 14 inches past due on rain and the sand is deep and powdery. Compounding this is the fact that the speed limit has been reduced to 15mph to help spot Kemp's Ridley sea turtles, an endangered species. I have heard horror stories about mud tires and our heavy diesel trucks and yet I see many trucks so equipped traversing the beach. I am considering two tire types both of which are Toyo brand.



1st Open Country AT

325/70R17 122R D/8 13. 0 wide X 34. 9 tall

I don't tow or pull heavy, so I am considering this load range D tire.



2nd Open Country MT

35x12. 50R17 125Q E/10 13. 2 wide X 34. 8 tall

I like this tire due to the load range but am not sure about use in the sand?



3rd Open Country Mt

LT295/70R17 128P E/10 12 wide X 33. 5 tall

This one is appealing but nearly impossible to find and does not have the footprint I think I need.





Anyone that has used any of these tires in dry powdery sand and or wet sand and would like to share their thoughts I would most appreciate. Currently I am running Cooper ATR 265/70R17 E. Needless to say they suck in the really soft sand and I spend lots of time idling in 4lo 1st gear to crawl back on top of the soft stuff. Airing down to 35psi didn't help much either.



Andy B

I have the Open Country AT 325/70R17 tires on my truck, and they do not wear very well. I doubt I will get 40,000 out of them. They are good in the rain and snow.

 

[CAPN Harley]

295/70

I have the 295's on mine now my rig is a dually and I do not get in sand much but I ran the beach up at lake texoma and they did tend to dig in. I have 2 extra wheel and a lot more weight so do not no the comparison. I have about 45k on mine and they are not to the were bar yet

 

[CAPN Harley]

Oh and I have hit well over 100 mph on my tires and no problem even with 10k trailer behind Sorry

 

[Mhannink]

here in ca the most popular is the toyo mt and the other is the bfg mud. i have seen and driven both types of tires on beach sand and they seem to do the best. i myself will not run anything else but the toyo mt im getting close to new tires and have 45k miles on them. the tires have been absolutly amazing. when others get stuck i can still get through and they are still really quiet on the road. to me they are the best pony up the dough and go you wont be disapointed.

 

[Grumpy John 4x4]

Toyo's

Really suck in the sand at the Glamis sand dunes, had them, have pro- Comp extremes and they suck in the sand, If you set on Toyo's go with the M 55's, Im going with BFG New KM 2"s, or Goodyear has some new Kevlar tires I will be looking at!

 

[geusterman]

I was planning the A/T's for years... then when buy day came the guys at Discount Tires told me Nitto makes the Toyo's... and I bought Nitto AT's... beautiful quite tire. Load range at 3495 on the 33's. Love em. George