No more brake shudder!!

[JLEONARD]

My truck has been down for several days and is now back up again.

In the front... . turned rotors, new calipers, new pads.

On the rear... left side had broken a hold down and the shoe had skidded cockeyed. . that was the grinding I heard last week. That side came apart easily. Drum turned all is good again The right side was a real bugger... . worst one my son had the displeasure of removing. The adjuster was locked (rusted) and the e brake tab broken. He had a heck of a time getting the drum off. New shoes and new hardware all around.

Road salt and that new magnesium cloride really does a number on steel parts!

 

[John Martines]

Don't you love winter in the N east:{. I switched my rears to the EGR disc setup. Can't say I'm thrilled with it though! The truck stops fine but the e-cables are worth less and I need them to keep the pads in adjustment. When I think about going back to the 3" drum set up I remind my self how much work for so little give they were. I lost three drums in a two year period from hardware giving out. Now with the salt brine cowboys out there in the winter I'm glad I don't have drums, It's bad enough trying to keep up with the rest of the rusting and failing parts

 

[PToombs]

Wait til your caliper pins start seizing up! Remember the old Luminas?

 

[Philip]

Pete it is also camero's, firebirds, sevelle's, regals. Just about anything GM (generic motors) that used rear disks had the same problems.



John you not the only person on here that has tried a EGR system and didn't like it that well. The basic problem is not enough master cylinder to work those rear disks properly. Look at a master cylinder from a late 80's GM G series van with rear disks. It can be modded pretty easy to replace the M/C our trucks came with. It will provide the fluid those disks want.



Jay they started using that stuff here about 2 years ago. Luckly they don't use it as much as out east.

 

[Greenleaf]

The salt (calcium/mag/choloride garbage, not Jay) will rust the school bus brake shoe table and then jack the shoe material (block) up and crack it. (rust jacking)



The shoes are pulled with tons... ... ... ... . TONS of brake material remaining, per State Highway Patrol. I don't fret over worn out shoes. They are replaced long prior to that.

 

[John Martines]

Philip, I know the master isn't ideal for the set up but it works for now, If the master goes bad then I'll modify. I can lock them up need be even with the abs. The truck does stop quicker and I don't have to pull the axles to change brakes BIG+ as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Philip]

John some people think not pulling the axles is a plus. But the first time your on the side of the road not to long after a brake job with locked up wheel bearings it might change your mind. Most of the time under normal driving. When the rear brakes get far enough gone to replace them. Its time to look at the bearings. They most usually are in about the same shape.

 

[Jgolden]

Jay,

Hope you coated everything with some of that anti salt stuff that blue water Boaters use.

 

[JLEONARD]

The fronts are all anti-seized and the rear hardware had some kind of coating on it out of the box.

Rear axle bearings were fine, but I replaced the right front bearings as they had seen better days.

Hopefully this is the last set of brakes this truck will see.