Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) No reverse with AT at 21K miles?!

[pkane]

I have a 2002 with auto transmission and no upgrades other than gauges. I knew the transmission was the weak link, but I wasn't expecting trouble at 21K miles!



Short version:

Lost reverse gear, then on way to dealer the forward gears didn't seem right either (faint metal sounds coming from underneath). Won't know until tomorrow what's wrong.



Long version:

Of course it has to break during the middle of a camping trip. On Wed, no problem getting to El Capitan State Beach (So. Cal. ) and backing the fifth wheel into the site (transmission temps fine).



We headed home w/out the 7,000-lb 5er on Thu evening so the kids could go back to school, planning to return the next afternoon. The AT was a little slow to grip when backing out of the campsite (like it feels after sitting for a couple weeks), but the 60 mile drive home went without problem.



Backing out of the garage on Fri, it again seemed a little slow to grip. Unfortunately, after running just a few errands around town I went to back into a parking spot and had NO REVERSE. I called the dealer and they said to drive it in. I'm not sure that was the best idea because it wasn't behaving properly on the short drive there.



Being Fri afternoon, they said they couldn't look at it until Mon. Fine, keep it.



Not wanting to ruin the weekend, we headed back to El Cap in the wife's van and enjoyed the weather and beautiful ocean views.



Unfortunately, the 5er is still at El Cap. Instead of paying to tow it, I'd rather leave it on-site and pay the $21/day; however, the ranger doesn't seem too sympathetic ("there's a 7-day limit" even though the campground isn't full for the week or coming weekend). I'll sort this out once I hear from the dealer on how long to make the repair.



Now I'm back home and it's time to face reality. What might I expect to hear from the dealer tomorrow? Since it is a warranty repair, what should I be on the lookout for, especially where they may choose to cut corners?



Thanks,

Pat

 

[fox]

Hopefully you only have a problem with the rear band being out of adjustment. This can be done with the pan dropped. It also could be apply strut for the lever. Since you can still drive it, it may be simple. If the band broke, it will take a complete R + R.

 

[pkane]

It's fixed, I hope

Fox, thanks for the reply.



I picked the truck up tonight and this is what was written on the repair order:



"Remove O/D unit. Found drum damaged. Grove for spring for direct clutches has come apart, losing all desired and needed tension causing no reverse. Fix: Remove and replace drum, 1 clutch, 1 plate and spring. Remove trans pan and remove all metal debris. Add fluid. "



Not sure what it means or why it happened though.



I'm not pleased that they didn't replace the transmission filter. I figured with any type of debris they would have; however, they said that it wasn't covered under the warranty repair (if I had known that, I would have been glad to pay for the filter). Hopefully I won't have any problems down the road because of it.



Here are the parts they replaced:

4461059 / Snap Ring 18051002

4864053 / Plate Tra 21133038 (Steel, Overdrive/Direct Clutch Plate)

4461042 / Disc Direct 21133036 (Friction Plate?)

5013458-AA / Fluid Tra 1081018

5013457-AA / Oil Trans 1081018

4461089 / Drum Auto 21136065

4461032 / Spring Di 21137022

 

[BKenny]

That bites they have the pan off clean the metal debrise out and don,t bother to change the filter wile there in there . When i first bought my truck i thought about taking it to the dealer to have my truck serviced i figured they would beable to service it and posibly notice any thing out of the ordinary with it. I called the dealership sevice depart ment and this lady told me sure we will give it 30,000 service and that will run you around a thousand dollers like it was nothing . So i decided it will only see the dealer for a engine warranty problem good luck bkenny