No Way.

[Don M]

Gentlemen,



Did you not know about the 400 various leaders from the Middle Eastern countries that recently had their little pow-wow in Iran? They all vowed to destroy the US and Russia. Not all of these people were the ones who helped in this latest battle. Nonetheless, they are part of the problem.



Im of the opinion that we must send a clear and definative message to all the Middle East. Attack us and you will die. Simple!

That message needs to be sent by killing lots of people.

They can be scared into compliance. I submit the fact that many are fleeing from Afghanistan as we speak. They expect us to slam them. Most of the world expected us to slam them. Not doing so only furthers the indignity we suffer now.

All the talk about "they are not afraid to die" is hogwash. They are running now, scared.

The Taliban is threatening us as we speak. Threatening us not to retaliate. Gimme a break. They all need to die! Please take a gander at the atrocities the Taliban has been been inflicting on the people of Afghanistan. I have seen photos of the things these animals do, in the name of Allah.

Do a quick search under Afghan women and see the things they do for yourselves.



The Taliban deserve no life. I will not be scared to live in my own country so we can go along and root out a few hundred bad guys. We did not hunt down the pilots from Pearl Harbor after they ambushed and killed us. We went and Nuked them out of the battle.

Hunting them down will cost us more lives on our side. Like I said before the idea in war is not to die for your country, but to make the other guy die for his. Remember the term war is flying around here. Now there are no civilians. No such thing on either side!



Don~

 

[Champane Flight]

Moral Fiber

I am sorry you feel that way TT. You see I believe that ANY religion that teaches hate or intolerance is not a valid faith. Whether they do it in a immoral text or any other way it is wrong. Just another way to bend a faith to there own axe to grind.

The bible is not a perfect text and has many,many counterdictions.



This is not a perfect world(we have seen a supreme evil),however we need to realize that you teach your children and others by EXAMPLE not hate and rhetoric. I am not a religious man(I do not believe in organized religion),however I am a spritual man.



I have seen some of these so called moral men,cheat on thier wives,steal from the American public,and ask for tiths from poor working men and women. I am sorry if I sound bitter and angry,but I am. I know a few gays,lesbians,and some who have had abortions. They have more moral fiber than most of the high profile christian ministers I have seen... ... .

 

[Turbo Thom]

Flight:



I do agree. Amen,Amen and Amen. I too stay away from the state religion. The Bible though is not contradictory. As a spiritual person also I fail to see the tolerance you speak of in scripture. To be luke warm is to be spit out of the mouth. It is better to be a ******* than to be luke warm. Tolerance has no place in the Christian walk. There is only one way to the Father, through the Son. Mercy, Mercy. I am very sorry for the way I explan this but I do believe we are in great trouble for just the things you say.



I'll stop here and leave it alone. We need to stand together and disscuss scripture at another time. I have much to say on that issue.



I will say no more.



Preston

 

[sweeks]

Tolerance

Turbo Thom; Shame on you. As a TDR member, A Viet Nam era veteran, and a Jew, your comments regarding religions outside of Christianity could easily have been lifted from a third reich speech. I can easily say that I would risk my life to save others(I've done it) and would give my life for your children,never once asking in my mind what religion or race they are. Somehow, I get the feeling you wouldn't do the same. It still wouldn't stop me or change what I would do. Being both patriotic and jewish, your comments are nearly as callous as can be imagineable. Reconsideration on your part is in order,as I'm hoping you spoke from an angry heart rather than with your head. SWeeks

 

[Champane Flight]

Yes.

Yes,I believe it is a good place to leave it alone. Like I have said many times,the good lord messed up when he went further than the ten comandments. I will stand by your right to believe in any faith of your choice. I do believe we all have to listen to each others faiths and understand where THEY are coming from as long as they do NOT spread hate and intolerance.

 

[John Berger]

For any of you who honestly believe that the Palestinians didn't know what they were laughing at, I have some beachside property in Atlanta that I'll sell you.



Terminate with Extreme Prejudice

 

[Doc Tinker]

Nothing like war, politics and religion to get some heated debates going. And to get them all into one debate to boot!



Just remember, we are all brothers in our faith in the Cummins, so please come back shaking hands in the end.



Doc

 

[BK]

Your right Doc, but foremost we're Americans...

Who want a secure and safe nation to practice our beliefs.



(even a safe place for those who love Dura-mins and Power Pokes )



But when dragged into a street fight, one must fight a street or you will loose.

If your in a Dojo, Boxing Ring or on a Wrestling mat, the rules are different and known, here and now this is a street fight... . low blows are allowed, poking of eyes and soo on. There is no PC here. If you don't protect for and use these moves yourself , YOU WILL LOOSE, you'll be worn down by your opponent by spend all your energy and time protecting yourself from these moves with out wearing down your opponent.



But 1st, you need to find your opponent, than do to others have they have done to you... ...



If they're not for you, they're against you.



Feelings are gonna get hurt, but thats a lot better than what happened in DC and NYC... .



Hold on tight, keep the faith and if you don't like it get out!



Once we get through it , we can get back to protecting peoples "feelings" again. .



But now there are much more important things.....



God Bless America



Bob