Northern Tools catalog has biofuel processors for sale

[rweis]

Just got my new Northern Tool catalog and while I was in "the reading room" thumbing through it I ran across 2 biofuel processors they now have for sale. Pricey, but apparently totally automatic. Load it, turn it on.



Bob Weis

 

[CanadianCarGuy]

Yup, you can get them for a whole lot cheaper from other places. Utah biodiesel supply is one of the cheapest places.

 

[WRLIVE]

I take it from this you guys are brewing your own ? I have just finished my first tank of B20 (purchased). Have you heard of or seen any issues with bio diesel and rubber parts or aluminum fuel parts? The manager where I got my bio diesel said Cummins hasn't approved over B20 due to these issues. Your thoughts? Thanks,

 

[KWilkinson]

I have replaced the fuel lines on my big line kit with Viton. Biodiesel will not harm aluminum, water in the fuel will. As long as your running a clean, dry fuel in my opinion there is no problem

 

[JFaughn]

Rubber was mostly replaced around 94 , the limit for b20 is still a lot of rumors .
Or maybe a number of reasons , from being around the bio-diesel for a while , an indication I have been hearing is that the newer common rail [ High pressure systems ] are polymerizing [ making stringy goo = technical term ] , that may be a biggy .

I for got my 1st thought when seeing the lead post , Northern Tool , some stuff the price is OK , but everything that is related to alternative , like solar , bio , seems like they are just making look bad with over pricing , they usually have the low grade solar panels , & sell higher than the good one [ I've been looking / using for $2. 80 - $4. 25 per watt for some time , seeing Northern Tools sell for $9. ++ per watt & higher ] .
Point being look around a lot before buying .

 

[WRLIVE]

Thanks guys for your input. I guess I need to get underneath and see if there is any indication on my fuel line as to composition. I would be surprised if it were Viton. Where did you source your Viton, if I may?



JFaughn are you saying that the common rail itself is polymerized?

 

[JFaughn]

No , its the high pressures in that system that change / affect the bio .
Heres a source for hose .
LarryB's Dodge starting problems solved here.
Bottom of page .

 

[CanadianCarGuy]

I am pretty sure all diesel vehicle fuel lines from 1993 on are biodiesel compatible, unless someone changed the oem line out for a cheaper one because they didn't wanna spend the cash for oem or viton lines.

 

[WRLIVE]

Good to know. Hopefully I have at least the oem lines. Are there other problem areas such as the fuel pumps or injector orings that have material suseptable to bio diesel? Thanks,

 

[americana]

isn't the problem people are having with the fuel lines is that when running bio the bio fuel will act like a detergent and knock free debris that collects on the walls of the fuel line (kinda like the plaque on my dad's arteries) then clog fuel filters?



i've heard the remedy is to carry extra fuel filters and have a little patience when starting out with bio diesel.



i'm asking, not telling.

 

[americana]

just checked utah biodiesel website. says they've closed their doors. only an e-mail discussion group survives.

 

[sshelly]

I bought mine from this guy Fusion Biodiesel He is very knowledgable and willing to work on the price to get you into one. I have been using the biopro380 for over a year now and love it. I used to make it the old fashioned way in a appleseed processer. I would NEVER go back. this thing saves you time and money. Besides, fuel prices are never coming back down.

 

[MOates]

CJD actually issued a info-only TSB a while back regarding using B20 in a CTD. Recommendation was to add a water separation prefilter in line before the factory filter.



From looking at what Cummins and other engine manufacturers are saying, their big bugaboo with biodiesel is fuel quality, and in particular water contamination.



IMHO, from my experience, even with regular #2 dino, running a water sep prefilter is cheap insurance against fuel related problems and can extend the life of the main filter by catching all the big chunks.

 

[mjohn181]

I bought mine from this guy Fusion Biodiesel He is very knowledgable and willing to work on the price to get you into one. I have been using the biopro380 for over a year now and love it. I used to make it the old fashioned way in a appleseed processer. I would NEVER go back. this thing saves you time and money. Besides, fuel prices are never coming back down.

So how much does one of those cost?

 

[SHobbs]

isn't the problem people are having with the fuel lines is that when running bio the bio fuel will act like a detergent and knock free debris that collects on the walls of the fuel line (kinda like the plaque on my dad's arteries) then clog fuel filters?



i've heard the remedy is to carry extra fuel filters and have a little patience when starting out with bio diesel.



i'm asking, not telling.

I had about 100k on the truck when I started running B20. I changed the filter after 3k, I noticed my fuel pressure at idle had dropped and during acceleration would drop fast. After another 3k I changed the filter again and after that I went back to every 6k. I have around 120k running B20 from around Nov. till Mar. maybe April, once night time temps stay above 45 I switch to B100. I have experienced no ill effects at all. One great benefit is that after changin the fuel filter I can get the fuel off my hands, don't smell like diesel.