Oil Analysis results

[JCasper]

Can you guys give me some insight to all of this. Looks like with the Smarty I should change a lot more often. #@$%!

 

[JHardwick]

Looks to me like the results were good with Delo.

 

[JCasper]

Looks to me like the results were good with Delo.

That was also with a lot less miles and no Smarty.

 

[steved]

I would say at the least, you should probably halve your OCI. With the solids that high, you would be a good candidate for a bypass filter. I have yet to see greater than 0. 3% insoluables, and although mine isn't BOMB'd, it was still smoking hard because of a screwed up timing issue.

JHardwick: also notice that the Delo was only around 2500 miles... less than half of what he ran with Amsoil.

steved

 

[steved]

Also, the iron is higher... IIRC, that's an indicator that the oil is becoming abrasive. I only see around 10-20ppm iron with 10k on Rotella CJ-4.

The increase in copper was probably a result of the Amsoil... it is quite common and not a problem usually.

Lead should have also been pegged as abnormal...

steved

 

[betterthanstock]

I notice a plummeting boron and molybdenum reading.

Are you on the new CJ oil?

 

[JCasper]

Here is a little background.





The Delo test was a long time ago at 17K, truck totally stock and driving 35 miles one way to work.



The last two tests are since getting the Smarty at 50K and driving 4 miles one way to work with a lot of idle time.



Amsoil does supposedly clean things up better, but who knows. Delo is supposed to have a lot of detergent in it. I think the idle time at 750RPM and the short commute along with the Smarty and smoke is the problem. I really don't contribute it to the oil.



I will check my hours on the truck if I remember tonight. I bet I have quite a few for the miles.

 

[JCasper]

I notice a plummeting boron and molybdenum reading.

Are you on the new CJ oil?

No, I'm using the AME 15W-40 Synthetic.

 

[JCasper]

I would say at the least, you should probably halve your OCI. With the solids that high, you would be a good candidate for a bypass filter. I have yet to see greater than 0. 3% insoluables, and although mine isn't BOMB'd, it was still smoking hard because of a screwed up timing issue.



JHardwick: also notice that the Delo was only around 2500 miles... less than half of what he ran with Amsoil.



steved

If I were to cut the OCI in half I would probably go back to Delo.

 

[steved]

If I were to cut the OCI in half I would probably go back to Delo.

Read this (not to scare you, just something to consider):



New oils and related failures. - BOMBER Board



steved

 

[JCasper]

Read this (not to scare you, just something to consider):



New oils and related failures. - BOMBER Board



steved

Yeah I've been active in that whole Thread. I am on that site all day long.



You can still get the old delo in 5 and 55 gallon drums.

 

[JHardwick]

JHardwick: also notice that the Delo was only around 2500 miles... less than half of what he ran with Amsoil.



steved

2x the miles and over 30x the soot



The only thing to do is remove a varible and try it again. Either run a OCI with no Smarty, or with Delo ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, don't do both.

 

[JCasper]

2x the miles and over 30x the soot



The only thing to do is remove a varible and try it again. Either run a OCI with no Smarty, or with Delo ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, don't do both.

Did you say no Smarty?#@$%!#@$%!



:-laf



I'm not sure I am trying to change anything except the soot, maybe a bypass filter needs to be added.



I was kinda hoping for someone to post their results.

 

[steved]

I was kinda hoping for someone to post their results.

Results? You mean UOA with and without Smarty?



steved

 

[JCasper]

Results? You mean UOA with and without Smarty?



steved

Yeah, anything. I'm just curious how it compares to other trucks.



I know I am not the only one pushing some fuel with the Smarty and driving short distances. I may be one of the few who sent a sample though.

 

[steved]

Yeah, anything. I'm just curious how it compares to other trucks.



I know I am not the only one pushing some fuel with the Smarty and driving short distances. I may be one of the few who sent a sample though.

I think JHardwick is pushing a little bit of fuel... and he just posted a UOA of Rotella a few weeks ago... might search on that?? Might get you something... he doesn't run a bypass either...



My UOAs are useless to you since I am not BOMBd and use a bypass anyway.



steved

 

[JCasper]

Thanks, Now I am more concerned about my Iron and Copper levels.



Comparing mine to his mine are HIGH.



https://www.turbodieselregister.com...1838-i-m-gonna-relax-bit-more-cj-results.html

 

[steved]

The copper is nothing to worry about... I have seen a lot of UOAs with Amsoil that come back with smoking copper for whatever reason. IIRC, they indicate it is a result of the oil leaching copper from the oil cooler.



The iron is elevated, probably a rsult of the oil being abrasive due to the high soot content. A bypass may cut down on your soot loading, thereby keeping the oil less abrasive.



steved

 

[steved]

Also, if you notice, his oil increased in viscosity... mine did the same thing on the last UOA... I believe it is probably likely that the oil "cooked down" as I have very little soot/insoluables.

steved

 

[JCasper]

The copper is nothing to worry about... I have seen a lot of UOAs with Amsoil that come back with smoking copper for whatever reason. IIRC, they indicate it is a result of the oil leaching copper from the oil cooler.



The iron is elevated, probably a rsult of the oil being abrasive due to the high soot content. A bypass may cut down on your soot loading, thereby keeping the oil less abrasive.



steved

Also, if you notice, his oil increased in viscosity... mine did the same thing on the last UOA... I believe it is probably likely that the oil "cooked down" as I have very little soot/insoluables.



steved

Thanks for the info. Looks like I have some learning to do as far as analysis goes.