Oil change intervals with amsoil

[Don M]

Maybe I got a batch that was "changed or upgraded" as amsoil calls it, and the mixture was not not quite right. We will never know the oil was not API licensed to assure a consistant product.



Don~

 

[klenger]

I have the dealer change my oil because free oil changes for life are part of the sale. They use Mopar oil. I wonder if Mopar oil is API certified? I'm going to check next time I'm there. I suspect that they buy from the lowest bidder, so ... ?

 

[COBRAJET]

DonM,

Is your only REAL issue with the oil do to it "causing" a leak?? I have heard this for years with synthetic oils. . including the ones WITH certification. Other than that, what evil things happended? I don't mean to downplay your leak, but could you fix it and reap the benefits of a synthetic oil?? I am sure you are aware of the benefits associated with the use of it... . CJ

 

[Don M]

CJ,



I did have way too many leaks with Amsoil. I feel comfortable in saying the leaks were from the oil. Yes, I am aware of the benifits of synthetics. I will still use synthetics. Not Amsoil, but others. I like the idea of extended drain intervals. But, with the fueling levels Im at, I cant do them. Too much contamination.

I will continue to use them in my rear axle (Torco or Royal Purple)

Transfer case will go to regular old ATF from Costco or Sams.

Engine oil will be changed prolly every 2500 miles until the bombing bugs dies away and I cut the fuel back. The engine oil will be Delo or Rotella.



Thanks for the debate.







Ken,



The MOPAR oil is re-labeled. I thought it was re-labeled Castrol. I cant say for sure. You could ask and see. The API license is more than just a test of quality. It assures the oil is consistant and has an audit process to make sure no manufacturers cheat. The transportation is also a factor with enviro and mixing being a part of it as well.



Don~

 

[Sled Puller]

The wealthiest one percent, the wealthiest one percent... .....



A full, fair and accurate count, a full, fair, and accurate count... .....



API certified, API certified,

At least 5 times on this thread. (EDIT, 6 times, he posted again while I was typing. )



Why are you still repeating yourself Don? Are you afraid somebody missed you statement the 1000 times you posted it on that other thread?





Amsoil will continue to make one of the best lubricants on the market, that do what they say it will do, do not cause leaks, and meet or exceed API specs. No matter how many times you post things that bother you.



And, they DO NOT void new car warranties.



Don't tell me again shoulda, coulda, woulda, PROVE it.



Cobrajet,

Thanks for the info, nice to hear others have the same good luck that I do with a high quality product.

118,000, no leaks.

 

[Don M]

Yeah Gene,



I heard from you on another thread that you expect to go 800,000 miles between rebuilds on your Cummins engine using Amsoil and you even defended the statement when called on it.

I cant wait to see this one. Maybe then I will stop asking the votes be counted again



disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated with an oil company that I personally profit from.



Gene, can you say the same?



Don~

 

[Sled Puller]

Don,

I was fully ready to count "7". you got me.



I believe my signature says it all. I am not a liar, so you can insinuate all you want.







Alas, my 800,000 mile rebuild is not going to happen. Just found out tonight, that I have been only running on 5 1/2 cylinders.



I know, it is the OIL!



Wrong. Human error from last April, Long, long story, and I REALLY need to settle with the shop. I'll get it fixed up here in the next couple of weeks. I'm giving them the chance to make it right.



If Piers would have opened his shop a few months earlier... ... ... . dern it.

Gene

 

[Don M]

Gene,

Lets forget the oil thing. I doubt oil had a thing to do with your troubles. I hope you make a bundle of cash or do well with your venture. I mean it.



Now, what's wrong with your horse? Can I help? I might have some ideas or parts to contribute. Gaskets, housings, bolts, etc.



Don~

 

[Pit Bull]

I never really thought about this until I read this thread, but I have my dealer change my oil and filter every 5000 miles. They check everything out and grease what needs to be greased (I love going to the dealer a bunch of great guys that care about my truck). They use Rotella 15w40 and the Mopar filter. It costs me $50. 00 or 1 cent a mile. Based on all of the studies I have read over the years my truck under this maintance schle. will last as long as any truck engine will last using synthetic with any type of filtering scheme. My warranty is also not in question using this type of maintance. I know that everyone is trying to alway invent a better mouse trap, but my question is for 1 cent a mile why? If I can afford a CTD I can afford 1 cent a mile to have the oil changed. I guess I don't understand what's the big deal? If you want to use synthetic (like I do in my Landcruiser, Mobil 1, I change it every 7500 miles, which is the manufactures recommendation) use synthetic and change it every 7500 miles. Big deal it will cost you maybe 1 1/2 cents a mile. If cost is a problem use synthetic, do it yourself and it will cost less than 1 cent a mile. About using a non API certified oil, that is a personal choice, and you just need to be aware of the consequences. Which I don't at this point know if we all understand completely? There are a lot of ways to get screwed and I guess DC could use this one to not cover a problem, but the Amsoil guys say Amsoil will cover you if it is a problem. I guess if it were me I would want that in writing, like my warranty from DC is in writing. I just feel like this thread has gotten to the point of nickles and dimes and who has the biggest dog Just my 2 cents worth

 

[Don M]

Big Toy,



what a small world we live in. . My folks live in the Branson area.



that being said. . you posted you thought that Amsoil would cover you for a warranty of oil related failure if the manufacturer excercised their ability to deny warranty for using non API licensed oils. I have not heard of anyone who has been told to "go away" by Amsoil if a customer made a claim.

The problem lies in that Amsoil will not cover any warranty claim for engines that have been modified. The Amsoil warranty states this is writing. So, the guys with injectors, cam plates, fueling boxes, etc. are outta luck with the manufacturer and Amsoil.

So... . why should folks purchase expensive synthetic oils and use them in their engines when the warranty is gone anyway?

With fueled engines over stock levels and increased soot levels the oil should be changed earlier not later and that throws the extended drain intervals out the window. The extended drain intervals are one of the reason guys pay 4 times as much per quart of oil for synthetics. If you cant cost benefit from using synthetics why spend the cash?



Don~

 

[Sled Puller]

I thought you were forgetting the oil?





The ease that the engine turns over below 32 degrees is enough for me use synthetic.



Don,

Samples will tell if the oil failed. If you send in a sample of failed oil, I believe any company would jump on it to see why it failed, and get it off the shelf if something was wrong. I don't think a fueling box or a 4" exhaust is going to cause a problem.



Oh, and you are right on the problem was not the oil. Unless oil causes dents to appear in pistons and bend valves.

The Ford boys are going to be sick when they find i was whipping them with only 5 cylinders!LOL

 

[Don M]

Gene,



Tell me what the damage is. I cant figure out what it is. Floated valves? Too high a lift cam? What?



Cold weather starts are a benefit. The same benefit that using a lower viscosity dino oil can give too.



Don~