Oil Change Surprise!

[PAllyn]

My first oil change in high school the same thing happened to me. It pumped out two quarts in about 100 yards.

 

[BigPapa]

If it sticks every time I'm guessing your not lubing the gasket.

Lubed with new oil every time.



Scott

 

[KBennett]

Double oil gaskets

I remember reading a post in the 2nd gen forum about someone loosing there engine because the old filter gasket stuck to the housing. I have always checked mine out since.

 

[nickleinonen]

Lubed with new oil every time.



Scott

try using used oil [like from dipping finger in old filter and using that to lube filter gasket]. . i've done both but i have heard used lube oil works well to prevent sticking gaskets [most of the time now, i wipe some lubriplate lithium on the gasket]

 

[GaryCarter]

I do wipe mine, normally. I always check for the gasket also. When working at the quick lube back in the day we never wiped them.

There's reason #47 I never let anyone else change my oil. (No disrespect to you CI).



I always wipe the gasket mating surface down with a clean towel, preferably Egyptian cotton. OK, I was just kidding about that part, but it will be a clean towel.



I confess I did once forget the drain plug and put a gallon of new Rotella down the drain.



Gary

 

[MathewsR]

My dad always told me to check the old filter to see if the gasket was there. I did it 53 times on my old civic until the night it started raining and I got in a hurry. I had also changed out the radiator at the same time. When it started gurgling I thought it was just air in the system... Just when I stuck my head in the car to shut it off the oil light came on. I knew right then what had happened Needless to say, I got really wet that night



Russ

 

[Turbo1Ton]

I confess I did once forget the drain plug and put a gallon of new Rotella down the drain.

I admit I've done this once while changing the oil on my wifes Jeep. Fortunately it was just one quart. It happened when I was changing my oil in a different environment. I had just moved to a new house and had not had time to get all my stuff situated in the garage so I went up to the shop at work and was doing it. Well because I wasn't used to doing it there, searching for tools etc. I wound up dumping a quart of oil on the floor. It only takes about a half a second to realize what you've done too! I don't think I've ever gotten under a vehicle that fast!



I also had a gasket stick on her Jeep too. I use the Purolator Pure One filters for her Jeep and they have the teflon coated gasket that is supposed to keep that from happening. Guess not. That was the first time it had ever happened to me in about 12 years of changing my own oil. Fortunately I always wipe the gasket surface off and I found it.



Jeff

 

[sonorakitch]

I confess I did once forget the drain plug and put a gallon of new Rotella down the drain.

I thought the service manual recommended doing this every so often to flush the oil pan?



~Chris

 

[GaryCarter]

Chris, now that you mention it-



Actually, let me steal the thread to ask a question. As most of you know, these new engines run so sooty the new oil is black after the first drive. I presume from what remains in the engine after draining. I've been thinking about doing an extra oil change; just put in some cheap store brand oil, drive around the block a few times, and dump it again, just to flush out the soot. Has anyone done this?

Or do I need to get a life?



Gary

 

[DJW]

Of the oil filter gasket being left after removing old filter, Honda Auto had a bulletin on it, if double gasketed owing to oil leaking on exhaust system car could catch fire, has happened a number of times. Of the pre oil filter fill, my Clark forklift has two filters they both have their openings pointing down, does that mean that if the engine is turned off all the oil will drain out of filter? How would one pre-oil them? Granted the Clark engine is not a Cummins, as per Cummins instructions regarding pre oiling oil filter, re Post 42, one should use those instructions for that particular engine, but wouldn't good enginering practice dictate that oil would be drawn from the sump, pumped through the engine, the returning oil forced through filter to rid the oil of accumilated contaminants and return to sump? I have not seen a diagram of the oil system for the Cummins, many motorcycles had a diagram of the direction of the flow of oil as general practice. Not sure of all Harleys but they are dry sumps with the engine oil contained in a tank under the seat. My 68 Sportster had the oil filter in the oil tank under the filler cap, not sure of my 1989 Sportster. I wonder why Cummins have not responded to this contentious subject, it almost has been Flogged to Death. CIA. MI5 who does have the answer? "Does She, Doesn't She?"

 

[steved]

Dad had his first gasket stick (fleetguard) at 200k... caught it as he was waiting for oil pressure to build... it dumped nearly 2 gallons of oil on the floor. At that time, we had over 500k combined miles on 3 dodge CTDs without a single gasket sticking.



Since then, my 3rd gen is bad... about everytime it sticks now... I check everytime since dad had his issue... we are both currently running Mopar filters...



FWIW, I have also found the Mopar filters (and a couple Fleetguard) to have wacked out threads... they appear to have a double thread and are sometimes tricky to get started.



steved

 

[BigPapa]

I have used Fleetguards exclusively since I bought my truck. I think that their gaskets are just not crimped on as hard as some of the others. It's not a problem. I've knocked mine off the new filter before when I was putting it on, just put it back on.



I don't know many people that have not had to learn things the hard way at least once.



I left the drain plug out changing the oil the first time in my first car and poured 8 quarts of oil on the ground. I couldn't figure out how 8 quarts didn't show up on the dip stick when it only calls for 4.



I didn't check the o-ring on the oil filter on the first oil change of my new Nighthawk S, the first new bike I'd had with a spin-on oil filter. 2 miles down the road I noticed a big cloud of smoke in my mirrors and then the rear tire felt flat when I tried to slow down. The entire rear end of the bike was covered in oil.



Needless to say, I haven't done that again on any vehicle I've owned.



Scott