Kevin -- You sell LE and only LE. I'm trolling for unbiased data from TDR members who use your oil. I'll draw my own conclusions. I know that LE makes great gear oils for industrial applications. I'd really like to know if a conventional base stock can perform in a crankcase as well or better than the top of the line synthetics. On another board you suggested that I should try you product myself and do oil analysis. I'm not going to do that unless there is a compelling reason to do so. I broke my engine in on Delo 400 and then tried Delvac 1 and Amsoil. I made these choices after reading oil analysis results from other people, not on the basis of propaganda from the companies. My own oil analyses confirmed that these are really good oils. I know enough about tibology and science in general to understand the deficiencies in the test data presented by oil companies. They all select the data that make their product look the best and don't present the entire story. That's just intelligent marketing strategy. But the only thing that really matters is how the oils hold up in real world usage under different types of driving conditions and drain intervals. Tear down data obtained under controlled conditions is the best indicator of oil performance, but it is extremely hard to find results that are actually comparable. So oil analysis is the next best thing. Not performance specs on new oil fresh out of the bottle, but after X number of miles or hour in an engine. If several people on this board can show me analysis results that indicate superior performance by LE oil, you may just have a new customer.