Oil Temp Guage??

[dsaint69]

I have an nv5600 in my 03. I am putting a guage pod on the a pillar. I'm not sure if I should just get a 2 hole or a 3 hole. I know to get the EGT and the Boost, but I was thinking of getting an oil temp guage. Is that a waste?? And if I were to get it is there a place to mount the piece??

 

[lmills]

do you mean oil temp for the 5600?

 

[nickleinonen]

if you are meaning engine lube oil temp, sure go for it... you can put the sending unit right in the top of the oil filter pad. . there are 2x 1/8"npt ports there that are plugged... one is easially accessable, one is pretty much unaccessable.

 

[dsaint69]

Yes, I meant Engine Oil temperature.

 

[lmills]

sorry I thougt maybe you were thinking about monitoring the nv5600 lube temp since you mentioned it being a 6 speed.

 

[Bertram65]

I have one, it works pretty well, I have the probe in the center port in the filter housing, there is a picture in my reader rig. The oil runs from about 210 to 230 depending on what the truck is doing, take longer than the coolant to get up to temp, surprisingly it does not seem to be very effected by ambient temp.

 

[rbattelle]

I would suggest an oil pressure gauge before an oil temp gauge if you don't already have one (the one provided by Dodge doesn't count).



-Ryan

 

[p-Bar]

I would suggest an oil pressure gauge before an oil temp gauge if you don't already have one (the one provided by Dodge doesn't count).



-Ryan

the Dodge gauge is one step above an idiot light

 

[nickleinonen]

the Dodge gauge is one step above an idiot light

or is that one step down below idiot lamp? showing drivers what dodge wants them to see...

 

[Buffalo]

Where would you tap into for an oil preasure guage? Same place as the oil temp?

Thanks.



Joe F. (Buffalo)

 

[jwduke]

or is that one step down below idiot lamp? showing drivers what dodge wants them to see...

I think you hit THAT nail on the head!

 

[lmills]

Where would you tap into for an oil preasure guage? Same place as the oil temp?

Thanks.

yes!! thats the place

 

[dsaint69]

I think the Dodge one would be sufficient. I mean unless you are hauling something super heavy or going to the tractor pulls every weekend. I am getting the oil temp, pyro, and boost.

 

[lmills]

just curious, but do you realize how the the stock one works?

 

[nickleinonen]

just curious, but do you realize how the the stock one works?

diddo to that...



the stock oil pressure gauge is a 6psi switch... above 6psi, and it shows something near normal, below 6psi and it show 0 pressure. the engine temp will effect how the "gauge" on the dash reads... i remember here someone put in a switch to trick the ecm into thinking the engine was hot to engage the fan to keep his auto trans fluid temps in check when backing up his trailer... that made the "oil pressure gauge" in the dash read lower, even with no engine temp change [just a simulated change with the switch]

 

[dsaint69]

But you see, I'm not doing any of that kinda stuff where I'll be tricking the ecu, and what not. If the stock one wasn't good at all, why didn't DC pull them out in 04??

 

[lmills]

checking oil pressure is far more critical than checking oil temp. D/C doesn't have the best record for making inteligient decisions. So asking why they left a fake gauge is like asking why they left the lift pump mounted on the side of the 24 valve motors for 5 years in a row, then after a change over they left it hanging on the side of the motor for an additional 2 years. Only to go and put plastic innercooler tanks in the trucks the same year that they decide to increase boost levels higher than they had ever been.



I am not trying to step on anyones toes. They just need to know that you might as well put a piece of tape over the gauge in the dash and wait for 5psi of oil pressure and the check gauges alarm to go off before looking at it.

 

[CMNS PWR]

Dragging an old one up...

Where would you tap into for an oil preasure guage? Same place as the oil temp?

Thanks.



Joe F. (Buffalo)

yes!! thats the place

Lloyd or anyone, can you (would you?) put in a T-fitting to read both from the same port?

 

[rbattelle]

Dragging an old one up...

Lloyd or anyone, can you (would you?) put in a T-fitting to read both from the same port?

I spent quite a bit of time working on exactly that. You can, but it doesn't work very well at all. The problem is that a tee-fitting puts the temp sensor up into the airstream coming through the radiator. When I was using a tee-fitting I couldn't even get the needle on the gauge to move off of the lowest peg (140*F).



So I got myself an adaptor that's 1/8 NPT male and 1/4 NPT female. I drilled and tapped the side of the adaptor to accept a 1/16 NPT male fitting and used that to get a pressure reading. Then I simply put a 1/8 - to - 1/4 NPT bushing on the temp sensor and threaded it in.



All that work made things a little better. Maximum temperature I can read is now ~175*F, which is still about 50*F too low. Also, in the winter at highway speeds the reading is usually ~145*F (after coming to a stop it rises to ~160 or 170).



My point is, I did a lot of work and it's still not "right". So I've resolved myself to switching the pressure port to one off the main galley (driver's side of engine block) and running only the temp sender in the oil filter port.



The reason I haven't done so yet is Nickleinonin is running his pressure from that port and his is leaking slightly. My personal paranoia prevents me from taking the perceived "risk" until I figure out a good way to seal the adaptor fitting for the main oil rifle port when I install it. [I'm very open to suggestions].



So yes, you can run a tee-fitting. But I don't recommend it.



On edit: attached a photo. The fitting I made is in the center. Sorry, it's kind of hard to see.



Ryan