OOOHHH Yea!, now ford & GM will control only 85% of the market instead of 90%. WTF, Are they blind or what. Ford controls the vast majority of 450/550 sales. That segment is RIPE for the pickin for dodge with all the problems with the 6. 0, but D. C is going to drag ***** again and miss out. By the time they actually release a 4500/5500 to compete, ford will have their new 6. 4 on the market and the 6. 0 haters will have to give it a shot cause ford just wouldn't put out another junk engine

and bam D. C. misses all the sales of those people standing on the fence looking for someplace to go.
Now, for amusement sake, lets say the 6. 4 turns out to be a good engine, now you've got even more diehard fordies that wont give dodge a shot that are currently just begging somebody to give them an option in the 45/55 catagory. These could be easy converts who for the most part wouldn't go back to ford if their dodges proved reliable just because of all the problems they had with ford, but just give ford a chance to come up with a reliable engine and dodge will have a much harder time grabbing sales in that segment.
I discount the chevy somewhat because lots of people, myself included, just don't want to drive a truck that feakin' big full time in town, day to day. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to drive just cause, but practicality rears its ugly head for in town use. That is my big like for the ford, upgraded internals, but exterior still looks like a pickup. If the 6. 0 didn't scare the bejesus out of me, I'd jump ship right now into the ford 450 because THATS THE ONLY THING OUT THERE!!!! AND THE ONLY THING IN AN INCREASED GVW for a pickup.
I really really want to stay dodge, cause I really like my dodge, but I need the next step up and so far only ford fits the bill. I guess I can give a 450 gasser a shot for a couple of years and to see how the 6. 4 fairs.