ok who has run dyed fuel

[bgilbert]

Yep its the same ole #2 diesel with red dye. Its is there to indicate no road tax paid on it, therefore offroad only.



I've heard here in the Hoosier state, if you had farm license plates, you could run the red off road #2. . ? Bill

 

[sparks57]

Originally posted by steveinaz

CB_Parker

high sulpher fuel was phased out a few years back. at least in the southwest it was.

D. O. T. will sit near a road construction site and pull over employees that are going home in their diesels pickups to dip the tank.

That really sucks. So can anyone answer the question of running two tanks and only using the red offroad or on the farm? Maybe you could put the fuel supply on a switch so you can select it from the cab?

 

[sparks57]

Maybe disguise it as a transfer tank?



Does DOT do anything but dip the tank? Maybe you could hide the intake of the secondary tank.



The only problem I see with that is that a friend of mine said that they check fuel filters, and the dye stains fuel filters. Is there any truth behind that?

 

[y-knot]

OK I think anyone who has worked with earth moving equipment, or has had access to a job site fuel tank, has on occasion run the fuel in there trucks. Does it make it right? No, but it does happen. I have done it, and there is definitely no power or mileage gain. Just the wallet gain, if you did not have to pay for the fuel. I have probably run 3-4 hundred gallons or so like that. I pretty much stopped after I installed a aux fuel tank w/pump in the truck. It made me an obvious target, and yes I have been stopped. Only once in my truck, but several times in a company truck. Usually they will wait till you leave the job site, then check you. I don't know the fine, but I am sure it is plenty.

 

[cguthrie]

My old boss use to run heating oil in his truck. Said it was the same stuff didn't hurt his performance any just changed his fuel filter more often. It was only like . 60 a gallon.

 

[bmoeller]

Originally posted by cguthrie

I've never heard of anyone getting pulled over and getting dipped in a pickup. I've only heard of that in semi's. But i guess there's probably someone out there that has had that happen to them



Chris

I wasn't hauling cattle that particular day, but my boss' little brother was with his gas pickup. There was some IRS guys there that were dippng tanks on the diesel pickups, but not the semis that were coming in to the Tyson plant.

 

[boatpuller]

It's legal to use offroad fuel offroad, if some is left in the tank and turns the on road fuel pink how can they prove that you are using off road fuel on the highway. I thought this was America and you were innocent until proven guilty.

Or is it not legal to use offroad fuel at all in a truck that goes on the highway?





Just wondering,

Caleb

 

[Cooker]

Originally posted by boatpuller

Or is it not legal to use offroad fuel at all in a truck that goes on the highway?

In Michigan if the vehicle is registered and has a plate, then no red fuel is allowed on or off road.

 

[GFrance]

High Sulpher Diesel

Originally posted by steveinaz

CB_Parker

high sulpher fuel was phased out a few years back. at least in the southwest it was.

D. O. T. will sit near a road construction site and pull over employees that are going home in their diesels pickups to dip the tank.

High Sulpher Diesel has not been completly phased out yet. At the pipeline where I load we have a loading rack that has High Sulpher Diesel (dark ruby red in color) Then we have another rack that you can put in blend codes into the computerized meter, which you can load low Sulpher Clear Diesel #2 which is what you are burning in your truck (if your not an outlaw ) Or you can put in another blend code & load Low Sulpher Dyed Diesel (the dye is injected as I'm loading, dye is red but diesel ends up lighter red) Eventually the High Sulpher will be phased out. When, who knows. I loaded Low Sulpher Dyed for our bulk plant today because the price was cheapest today. The dyed diesel is going into the same tank for off road use only. Hope this clears things up for you guys.

Glenn / allias TankerYanker

 

[Stomp]

Well I guess I was an outlaw because I have probably used a couple thousand gallons in my pickup, but I kind of wised up. I have just gotten smarter. Well in OR Trucks pay a lower price 24cents or so. So I would go to the station and tell them that I needed off road fuel for the tank in the back and they would charge me the truck (PUC) price, but it was clear diesel so even if my tank got checked I was good to go. At the ranch we used to get dyed fuel, but we switched to getting clear fuel, and then writing down how many gallons goes on road and then how many goes off road, but I will tell you this quite a few off road gallons go on road.



Stomp

 

[DF5152]

ok a question for any lawyers out there how can they just dip ur tank without ur concent or reasonable cause, and just because u have a diesel pick up it is not reasonable cause. As a law enforcenment officer I would be violating ur civil right by searching your tank without concent or some type of reaosnable cause like i saw you leave a pump that dispenses off highway fuel. . Although the IRS is not a true government agency in that they are contracted by the feds to collect taxes they still are an official agency and i thing they would be violating your right to illegal search same for DOT.

 

[GWDiesel]

Diesel fuel road tax

Can anyone tell me how the tax bast---- can

justify charging a road tax that is intended for big rig's for extra road mantence on a

vehicle that weighs less than 11,0000# and

not just charge us the same as gas burner's

I was told that Diesel tax in Mexafornia is 0. 28 cents a gallon on cars and pickups. Why cant we pay the same tax as gas burners??:mad A Diesel pickup is no diffrent

from a gas burning pickup. GWD

 

[Wayno]

Originally posted by Stomp

Well At the ranch we used to get dyed fuel, but we switched to getting clear fuel, and then writing down how many gallons goes on road and then how many goes off road, but I will tell you this quite a few off road gallons go on road.

Stomp

Well you use to be able to do that in Texas but I got some paper work from the Attorney Generals Office a month or so back and that will not be happening here anymore , I forgot the date that will take place . Here in the Houston area the red is no different than the clear except for the Tax thing , thats what the place I buy fuel from has told me but things are different here because the greater Houston area has a pollution problem. We have run red at my job at times and it burns no different ------ Taxes , we don't pay no stinking Taxes at my job .

 

[datablitz]

gwdiesel, in ohio the tax on diesel and the tax on gas is only a few cents different per gallon, but both are around . 45 per gallon iirc

 

[RollOver_Pete]

First of all, one should never kiss and tell You never know who (big brother) might be watching. Flying J sells clear off road fuel

http://flyingj.com/fuel/ag.html

for those of us who dare to step into the dark side