On Board Air

[ROCKJEEP]

Hey all, I saw Brads kit and it looks good. I can't wait until its ready to buy.

Kory



P. S. maybe Brad could post some pics

 

[Jeff Clark]

I'm ready too!

 

[RAMINSPEED]

I saw it also, looks great. He and his employees were very nice and helpful to me. I know where I'll be buying my air system for my truck.

 

[rbattelle]

Who is brad? Where can I get a look at this air system? Please, some details!

 

[dblake]

check out www.onboardair.com

 

[rbattelle]

Are you guys saying they're making a kit for the 2003 trucks?

 

[Phil Howell]

Yep. They had a 3rd Generation system on display at the Off Road Expo. It looked excellent.

 

[rbattelle]

Cool. Oo.

 

[Kilby]

Hi guys! It was good seeing those of you who showed up.



Here are some pics we took a couple of weeks ago before the system was plumbed. I can take better ones if these arern't good enough. Also, I don't have a price or ETA yet. We had to modify the intercooler tube to make this fit and one of my guys is modifying a second tube as I type this so we can send it out and get quotes on producing them for the kits. It's a tight fit in there but obviously doable. We'll be checking the fit with the OEM intake system shortly too.



http://www.onboardair.com/images/kits/ke-3100/

 

[Duck]

I'm sure you get this question a lot, Kilby, but since I didn't see it on your FAQ's, here goes

Have you ever dyno'd to see how much horsepower was lost by adding the unit? Not when the pump is engaged, of course.

 

[Kilby]

No and to be honest, I don't think I'll ever do it either. Reason #1 is, most guys buy the system to run air tools and to air up tires. I haven't seen a guy yet that can air up his tires and drive at the same time. Not without CTIS that is.

2nd is, it'll pull about the same amount of power as your AC compressor will, while running the higher pressures. Your Cummins should be able to overcome that. Heh heh! To be honest, On my Cummins I can't tell when my compressor goes off and on. I'm gonna have to put a light on it I think.



Just to give you an idea, I have 4 banger gas engines running these systems. Guys with 120 hp and 3 ft lbs of torque.

 

[David Muench]

Ah, geez.



Here I was, all set to go with a Ram Air 3 intake as soon as they're available in clear, and I see you've got a AFE Magnum. .



To go with a RA3 and hope for the best with OBA, or go with the Magnum and a sure fit?



Decisions. .

 

[Kilby]

I guess I should have read Ducks's question a little better.



Duck, when the compressor isn't running, it doesn't pull any power. Or maybe I should say it takes whatever power it takes to spin a free spinning pulley. 1/10 hp?

 

[Duck]

Originally posted by Kilby

Duck, when the compressor isn't running, it doesn't pull any power. Or maybe I should say it takes whatever power it takes to spin a free spinning pulley. 1/10 hp?

That's exactly what I was asking

Thanks, and keep us posted when it's available for our trucks and $.

 

[mgonske]

Brad,



Put me down on the "gotta have it" list for when it's ready. I've got the Ram Air III already--I'll have to take your pictures out to the truck and try a comparison to see if it looks like it will fit. (I've got a long list of fittings to order from you too, to go with the two tanks I bought at Easter Jeep Safari for the Jeep & the CTD).

 

[rbattelle]

What's the status on this kit? I notice it's still not on Kilby's website...

 

[Punkineater]

I received an e-mail from him this week stating it will be a month more maybe two... ... ... can't wait.

 

[Kilby]

A quick heads up:

To make our current design work, we need to replace the innercooler tube going from the turbo to the innercooler. The new tube would look just like the old one except the bends would be two inches closer to the turbo to allow ample clearance to the alternator. It took us a couple of months to track down the OEM supplier to DC and see if they'll help out and they will. I have two sample tubes sitting at my shop but unfortunatly, I don't think either one will work. I probably won't know for a week or so if I'm right. If I am, the supplier can still make the tube but has to change their tooling to make it the way we need it. It's been a long process but it'll be worth it in the end and hopefully the new tube won't cost a fortune.



Besides that, we're in the process of moving KE into a new building. We won't be fully moved and organized for a couple of weeks so production on all things will be at a temporary halt. Once moved, we'll be in a larger building and hopefully more organized to get orders and manufacturing done quicker.

 

[rbattelle]

Sounds great, Kilby!

 

[mgonske]

Thanks, Brad (and Ryan for asking)!



I've been getting a little anxious, having finished the tank & train horn install on the truck, then the re-plumbing (with the bigger tank) job on the Jeep--it's time for a compressor on the truck. I guess this means it won't be in before Moab, though