Ordered a Borgesson

[sparks57]

It should be here any minute. I was just looking around and found a how too on the borgesson installation, and it said along with the shaft you also need a borgesson rag joint.



When I called summit, I told them I needed the unit for a 93 Dodge 3/4 Cummins, and I specifically asked if there were any other parts needed.



Do I need to order a rag joint, or do you think it comes with the shaft?

 

[banzaitoyota]

On my 92 D250, I just oredered the Borgenson from Summit and that was it

 

[sparks57]

Cool. Thanks!

 

[bgilbert]

Chris, I bought mine from Borgeson. It will be a shaft, with the rag joint attached. I'm assuming the rag joint is what connects to the steering gear box. I'd sure hope you dont just get a shaft, cause your paying for the joint that connects to the bottom end/gear box. I think it I received only the shaft, I'd be hitting someone with it... . Also, the shaft, joint will rust. So you might want to paint it with some rust preventitive or something. It's nice and shiney silver painted new, but it didnt take long to rust. Bill

 

[HonkinDiesel]

I just put mine in yesterday and used existing rag joint. Although I kinda wished since I had it off, to replace it.

Probably a cheap part from Dodge.



That ol'shaft was sure a bugger to get off the gear box. The compression pin and that whole section was just severaly corroded.

Make sure you got lots of penetrating oil, a blow torch and pickle fork (to pry it off with) handy . That's what it took for me anyway!



Pointer: Double check steering wheel to shaft alignment. Don't think the flat part of the steering box shaft mates with the set screw of the Borgeson. I did that first and was off about 90deg on the steering wheel when I came to reattaching it.



After installed, it provides a more positive steering on the road. No more slop!

 

[JLEONARD]

Probably a cheap part from Dodge.

Are you calling the round disc looking rubber part the rag joint?

If so it is an isolator coupling... . it's function is to isolate road noise and power steering pump noise from travelling up the steering column. It also contributes to the "feel" of the steering since it dampens torsionally as well as axially.

These isolator couplings are all designed specifically for each application (some overlap). They also degrade with age as every rubber based product does, therefore it would be wise to replace it. Once they degrade they may feel "spongy" and add lash to the system, or get hard and not isolate well.

Another way they can degrade is fall apart... that's not good, but since they have cords in them they will not fail catastrophically... in other words they will get really sloppy but still maintain the ability to carry torque... . giving the driver ample warning to investigate the problem and get it fixed.



I'm not sure you can buy this part from Dodge... .

Anybody? Is it available?



Jay

 

[sparks57]

I got everything... looks good. I also got a can of rustomleum for it.

 

[EZGZ]

That was one of the first mods I did to my truck back in 96 when I got it. 72k miles and it wondered all over the road.

I just got the joint and it came with a rubber bellows type cover. Been tight like new ever since. Makes it drive like new. You will love it.

I remember checking at the dealer to replace the old one. It cost almost as much and hadn't been improved and I would have had to wait a week for it.

Went with the Borg unit and never looked back.

 

[CAROLINA CUMMINS]

The Borgeson is a very good investment. I'm happy with mine.





Steve