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I just finished installing a fuse block in my '06. After turning the block in my '97 into a spaghetti bowl of wires, I decided to add a seperate one to the '06. Although there is plenty of room under the dash, I wanted to mount it in a more accessable location. I reworked the metal dash frame and fitted it into the access panel where the 2nd gens have it.
 
Thank you for the picture. I was looking at that panel today... did you start prying it off at the front?



Jon
 
nice clean install. . looks factory... two thumbs up



can you tell us a little bit more? such as. .





where did you grab power from?

where did you put the ground?. .

where are you going to go thru the firewall for power accessories outside?

which model painless is that one? I couldnt find it in their catalog and I was trying to see what the best price I could find it for was... I like the 2 relay configuration



what metalworking mod was required?



again,, great job





cam
 
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raksasa said:
Thank you for the picture. I was looking at that panel today... did you start prying it off at the front?



Jon



On the bottom of the panel there is a slot. Stick a flatblade screwdriver in there and pry up gently. They come off much easier that way. The rest will pop off and then there is a spur that goes under the plastic next to the door seal.
 
Thanks for the pics. I think there was a write up a issue or two ago in the TDR. I have been meaning to do that. In that article I think they used two BUSS fuse blocks and made one have power all the time and one that had power only with ignition.



I would like to do that, some info on the wiring would be appreciated.



For power all the time I was going to grab it from the battery. For ignition on, I was going to grab power from the battery but use an relay to only turn it on with the ignition. I will probably get the ignition on from my cig. lighter as that is where my Westach is powered from.
 
JCasper said:
For power all the time I was going to grab it from the battery. For ignition on, I was going to grab power from the battery but use an relay to only turn it on with the ignition. I will probably get the ignition on from my cig. lighter as that is where my Westach is powered from.



That's how it's done! Piece of cake, really.



Trampolineman, what did you do to the dash substructure to get it to fit there?



Ryan
 
Hey there, I just got home and dug out the TDR magazine. It is issue 54 page 14. Seeing this today has me wanting to go get it done now. I am going to call NAPA and see if they can get these for me. In the article the guy put two Buss P/N 15600-06-20 in. It takes a little trimming of some plastic but two fuse blocks fit in there.
 
OK, first off, thanks for the replys.



I pryed the cover off from the top with my pocket knife. Be careful, the plastic scratches very easily.



The block I purchased is the 7 position all ignition hot. I didn't want constant hot, I'm planning on running all my gauges and train horns off this block.



Sorry I didn't have more pics to post. I thought about taking pics of this when I was already half way thru.



Each relay has its own power lead that runs thru the firewall to its own circuit breaker then to the battery. I terminated the two leads into one with an eye connector. There is also a power lead off the new block the runs to the trucks block that you connect to any constant 12V source. The two grounds off the new block are terminated into one lead that has an eye connector on the end that you run one of the mounting screws thru to bond it to the frame.



I'm not going to run any of these leads outside, I'll run outside leads into the cab thru the firewall and make connections inside the cab.



The model I got is, PPP-70117-all ignition hot. It was $71. 95, a little spendy but well worth it. It comes with ALL connectors and hardware.



When you pry this cover off, there is no room for anything as is. There are metal dash supports that protrude towards you when looking in. All I did was bend these supports in towards the dash. I can't see how this would decrease any of the dash support integrity and why Dodge didn't mold it this way from the get go. On this support, I pryed it in starting with a screw driver. Once it started to bend in, I beat it the rest of the way with a hammer. Channel locks were my final tool of choice to form it to the shape I needed.



Here's a couple more pics. The first is where I ran thru the firewall, the second is where I mounted the two circuit breakers.
 
Here's a couple more. In the first, imagine the piece of paper is the original shape of the dash. The 90* bend on the left side is now on the right side after being bent in.



The second pic shows the ground lug, the mounting screw goes thru it and bonds to the dash frame.



The third pic is of the inside of the cover. There are two nipples that stick out about an inch. The left one in the pic is the upper on the cover. I had to snip half of it off so it wouldn't hit the block when pushed back on.
 
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camsv3500 said:
nice clean install. . looks factory... two thumbs up



can you tell us a little bit more? such as. .



where did you grab power from?

where did you put the ground?. .



cam



On my '05 3500 I put this kit on the passenger side. There is a plastic cover, on the dash panel, that faces the passenger door . Just pop off the cover and there is room inside this panel to mount the power kit without having to bend or change anything inside. Just screw it to the metal support inside. The main power comes from a dedicated power lead that runs back through the firewall to the battery. The ground can be made on any of the metal framework in the dash. I run all my gauges, power for my radar detector, air horn setup, and other stuff off this kit and it works great... ;)
 
I was able to pop rivet mine, behind the metal plate, to a support on the left side. I used the two left mounting holes, on the "painless" kit, drilled holes into the support, and riveted it on. It's a solid mount.
 
RJOL said:
On my '05 3500 I put this kit on the passenger side. There is a plastic cover, on the dash panel, that faces the passenger door . Just pop off the cover and there is room inside this panel to mount the power kit without having to bend or change anything inside.



It's the same on my '06. I put mine on the drivers side cause I have other plans for the passenger side. ;)
 
abdiver said:
... Wonder why your and mine are rusty What do they do live them out in the rain. .



Chrysler saves about $. 05 per vehicle by using bare, untreated, or non coated metal under the dash. If it gets any moisture on it, it rust... :(
 
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