Parts Are At Dealer

[GBoatright]

Okay, the dealer has the new head and head gaskets to put on my motor and I was wondering how many hours does it take to do the job. The old head is already off so they probably need to transfer parts from old head to new head and install on the truck. I really want my truck back and they are open on Saturday. They intially said they were going to wait till Monday to start on it, but I want to push them to start now so I can get my truck back tomorrow. Is that time frame reasonable?

 

[Big_H316]

If they really know what they're doing it should take no longer than, oh, say, 4hrs max. But then again I've been messing with engines my whole life so I CAN say that it is not a hard job to do, just a heavy one.



How come you already have to have the head replaced on an '05?

 

[GBoatright]

On a previous post about 2 weeks ago, I was having an oil leak from an improperly machined head on my new truck. So here I am wanting my new truck back so I can get back to hauling hay and dealing with hay season in general.

 

[Tomeygun]

Okay, the dealer has the new head and head gaskets to put on my motor and I was wondering how many hours does it take to do the job. The old head is already off so they probably need to transfer parts from old head to new head and install on the truck. I really want my truck back and they are open on Saturday. They intially said they were going to wait till Monday to start on it, but I want to push them to start now so I can get my truck back tomorrow. Is that time frame reasonable?

i think it is quite a big jiob to swap head parts and get it all back together, Maybe two guys together could get it done in your time frame... But i would not make any waves with someone repairing my beloved diesel

 

[GBoatright]

It's hard to be a "beloved diesel" when I've had the truck for 2 months and been messing with this oil leak with the truck in and out of the shop for 5 weeks.

 

[Tomeygun]

It's hard to be a "beloved diesel" when I've had the truck for 2 months and been messing with this oil leak with the truck in and out of the shop for 5 weeks.

thats no good, What was the oil leak due to? Some head casting problem ??



EDIT - opps, types before I read, Machining problem...



Good luck with the new head. It would be nice if they could go ahead and use head studs while its out though

 

[GBoatright]

I didn't think of the head studs, it's probably to late now, but that would have been a good idea.

 

[Big_H316]

You must have a pretty laid back dealership if they would install head studs on a warranty truck. Mine wouldn't even determine the answer to the problem I had for over 100k miles. Finally had to do the job myself and was out of pocket a grand!!!!!!! The dealerships nowadays, just from my own experiences, have gone to hell in a hand-basket... . forgive me tommeygun, it's just that everytime I took my truck in for warranty work I got the run-a-round. The same ol' answer everytime, "we can't duplicate the problem. " I don't give a rat's patooty if you can duplicate the problem or not... I'm telling you what it's doing and yet you do nothing to try to solve the problem. Oh crap, I was re-living bad thoughts out loud again... oh, well, at least thats off my chest now .

 

[Scrappy]

You must have a pretty laid back dealership if they would install head studs on a warranty truck. Mine wouldn't even determine the answer to the problem I had for over 100k miles. Finally had to do the job myself and was out of pocket a grand!!!!!!! The dealerships nowadays, just from my own experiences, have gone to hell in a hand-basket... . forgive me tommeygun, it's just that everytime I took my truck in for warranty work I got the run-a-round. The same ol' answer everytime, "we can't duplicate the problem. " I don't give a rat's patooty if you can duplicate the problem or not... I'm telling you what it's doing and yet you do nothing to try to solve the problem. Oh crap, I was re-living bad thoughts out loud again... oh, well, at least thats off my chest now .

if you have documentation of the problem prior to warranty expiration and they fail to find anything until AFTER 100K and then they find the solution, it is on the dealers dime, not yours. you have a shady dealer in my mind!

 

[Matt400]

I wouldn't rush the tech through a job like that. Also the tech that took it apart may not be on duty on Sat.

6-7 hrs is the book time to do just a head gasket.

 

[GBoatright]

The dealer told me again I wouldn't get my truck until Monday. I didn't want to really rush them on the job because I want it done right. I just didn't want them to blow off the work until Monday if they didn't have to. I could have really done some hauling this weekend, but I'll just have to put it off a little longer. Thanks for the replies and I'll let you guys know on Monday night how the truck turned out.

 

[JCBerry]

I wouldn't rush them either. You want the same Tech that took it apart to put it back together. Head jobs are not rocket science but a good tech want's to double check everything. At least they found the problem on yours they kept telling me there wasn't a problem, now that it's traded in I think they're changing the Transmission.

 

[DPKetchum]

Most dealers I know the skilled techs don't do Saturdays or any heavy/highly skilled work on Saturdays. Quick service and minor repairs. Rest is Monday thru Friday. Most independents also if they do Saturdays at all. The ones near me Saturday is not even a full day and only for a few techs on rotation.

 

[Bill Stockard]

Most dealers I know the skilled techs don't do Saturdays or any heavy/highly skilled work on Saturdays. Quick service and minor repairs. Rest is Monday thru Friday. Most independents also if they do Saturdays at all. The ones near me Saturday is not even a full day and only for a few techs on rotation.

Yep, they want their Saturdays off just like the rest of us.



Bill

 

[bmoeller]

No working on Sat. , or a half day? Almost never happens. Usually shoot for a half day, but generally doesn't turn out that way. Always plenty to do.



Got to split a tractor today. Needs a clutch.

 

[Bill Stockard]

No working on Sat. , or a half day? Almost never happens. Usually shoot for a half day, but generally doesn't turn out that way. Always plenty to do.



Got to split a tractor today. Needs a clutch.

Yep, if you are working on commission, you gotta' get it when it's there.



All the techs where I worked were on commission. They worked nights, weekends, and holidays if the work was there... making the $$$!



Bill

 

[DPKetchum]

Not the shops I've worked in. Most techs will say if I can't earn a decent living Monday thru Friday 8 to 5 or 5:30 I need another profession. Saturdays for the "experience tech"was like pulling teeth. Some just plain refused. Hate to say it but me also. I did a half Saturday every 8 weeks and hated it when I wrote service. We were ALL 100% commision. I did Saturdays 25 years before in my Firestone days but not since. The broken vehicles were always there on Monday!

 

[nickleinonen]

Not the shops I've worked in. Most techs will say if I can't earn a decent living Monday thru Friday 8 to 5 or 5:30 I need another profession. Saturdays for the "experience tech"was like pulling teeth. Some just plain refused. Hate to say it but me also. I did a half Saturday every 8 weeks and hated it when I wrote service. We were ALL 100% commision. I did Saturdays 25 years before in my Firestone days but not since. The broken vehicles were always there on Monday!

that's all find and dandy when you have sat-sun days off... when you have mid week days off [i have tues-weds off, so tues is my sat ] and on midnight shift to boot, trying to figure out what day it is gets hard sometimes without the tv guide in hand [worked a double today sat 1600-sun 0800 ] and tomorrow is friday

 

[DPKetchum]

Oh well. I could care if anything was open on weekends. I vaguely remember whhen as well as Saturdays and Sundays most everthing closed 1/2 day on Wednesday. I grew up in Atlanta and as a kid if you didn't get fuel for the car by Friday afternoon your were SOL until Monday morning. Life went on,bills got paid etc. ONE drug store opened nights and weekends in the WHOLE city. Any way if you get kinda good in a profession you get a attitude like NO WEEKENDS. If they want a service writer on weekends hire a young and dumb. Techs think the same way. They mostly opnen Saturdays to sell CARS. It sounds GOOD to customers. They don't tell you its just usually a couple to change oil,rotate tires,real minor stuff and at coupon discount prices. A GOOD trans tech or a driveabilty tech doing any thing much on Saturday no way. That guy that is installing your cyl. head. He could lay out,be sick for three days. It will still be there when he comes back in and he knows it. Ask him. Some will flat tell you IT WILL BE READY WHENS ITS READY. Sorry thats just the way it is.

 

[RMalone]

DPKetchum is sort of right. If someone is real good at their profession they DO get to dictate some terms. Hell I own my own business (greenhouse) and come sunday at 5 p. m. it's "EVERYBODY OUT" a man needs some time for family, friends and himself sometimes, regardless of money.



That said if business is down and the bank account hurting that sucker is open on sunday untill the customers say so!!!