pay attention to your health

[Tractorat]

Make sure you pay attention to your health. My brother in law is going in for brain surgery in a couple of days. His symptoms are a constantly running nose (clear liquid) and going deaf in one ear. His doctors just poo poo'd it. He is visiting in Texas and went to anther specialist while there. He has what is known as a leaky brain. A hole in the membrane that protects the brain. He is very lucky it was found.

 

[DavidC]

Yeah, I'm starting my 2nd bout with cancer. Finished the prostate like 2 years ago now another type. Someone is telling me that cancer is going to get me one way or the other.

 

[Tractorat]

DavidC, so sorry to hear about that. But you beat it once. Hopefully you can beat it again.

 

[BSeyler]

David,
Sorry to hear this. We both made this journey once before - praying for a good outcome.
Bud

 

[Jdorfmeyer]

Prayers from NE, good luck to your brother-in-law Tractorat. DavidC keep a positive outlook and you will beat it!

 

[BSeyler]

Tractorat,
Adding your BIL to our prayer list.
Bud

 

[DavidC]

Tractorat I pray for the best for him.

 

[Wiredawg]

Yeah, I'm starting my 2nd bout with cancer. Finished the prostate like 2 years ago now another type. Someone is telling me that cancer is going to get me one way or the other.

Dave,

I have several friends who've wooped cancer twice... I'll keep you in my prayers.

TR, best wishes and prayers for your BIL too...

We all have to stay diligent, get annual physicals with full blood workup, and be persistent if something doesn't seem right.

Wishing Full Recovery and for Best Health. Ron

 

[Tractorat]

You have to be your own advocate. Doctors these days just work for the insurance company. And their diagnosis skills are quite often lacking. Kind of like the fact that a lot of airline pilots anymore are not pilots. They are systems managers and really dont know a lot about flying.

 

[BoeingDiesel]

You have to be your own advocate. Doctors these days just work for the insurance company. And their diagnosis skills are quite often lacking. Kind of like the fact that a lot of airline pilots anymore are not pilots. They are systems managers and really dont know a lot about flying.

Tractor, with regret, I fully agree. There is a stark difference between a highly trained and educated professional that has a passion for their career vs. the person that see's the career as a monetary return on investment.

 

[BoeingDiesel]

David, wishing you the best and you are in our prayers.

 

[Wiredawg]

Friends,

Not trying to start an arguement, but just offering my opinion. FWIW, I believe medical is the best it's ever been... it's been a long time since I've lost a friend to cancer, and I remember back when folks were diagnosed and gone shortly afterwards. I've had several friends diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and still living years later, which was unheard of. Nothing or no one is infallible. And like every other occupation, there are good and bad. But I think being your own advocate has been a requirement for a very long time. I haven't had cancer, but I've sure had some outstanding medical care for my many disabilities. Medical systems are bueracracies that are heavily regulated and controlled. So, after all that, I still agree YOU are your best advocate in the medical system.

I know there's a lot of automation in flying too, but there's plenty of stories where the pilot not the computer saved the plane and pax. I see the automation pilot stories in other countries like Malaysia where idiots dont lnow what's up or down.

So anyway, hope all here stay healthy and alert. Ron

 

[Tractorat]

I know there's a lot of automation in flying too, but there's plenty of stories where the pilot not the computer saved the plane and pax. I see the automation pilot stories in other countries like Malaysia where idiots dont lnow what's up or down.

Those are the pilots Im talking about. And it may come to pass with Delta. soon.

Not trying to start an arguement, but just offering my opinion. FWIW, I believe medical is the best it's ever been... it's been a long time since I've lost a friend to cancer, and I remember back when folks were diagnosed and gone shortly afterwards. I've had several friends diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and still living years later, which was unheard of. Nothing or no one is infallible. And like every other occupation, there are good and bad. But I think being your own advocate has been a requirement for a very long time. I haven't had cancer, but I've sure had some outstanding medical care for my many disabilities. Medical systems are bueracracies that are heavily regulated and controlled. So, after all that, I still agree YOU are your best advocate in the medical system.

I think the problem is with the "first line of defense". Once you get to the specialists, it gets better. In the case of my bil, the seattle ent missed the diagnosis. Told him just allergies. But once you get diagnosed, I think the care is excellent (mostly).

 

[Tractorat]

Well, after 6 hours my bil is out of surgery. I guess the docs said it isnt a great fix, but it may be OK. They wont guarantee it. If it doesnt do the job, they will have to do a craniotomy.

 

[DavidC]

Man does that sound painful. Hope he recovers and never looks back.

 

[Timd32]

Keeping you BIL in our prayers, I'm on Ron's side the medical folks are just super top knotch, it is all so impressive what they can do anymore.

Of course there are horror stories but all in all I have a lot of family in the medical field, uncle is an Old school Dr, his kids my cousins one is Dr in the Navy down in VA Beach, her husband is a Dr in the Navy he went to Naval Academy, she is just a wiz at everything. Then my other cousin is in Iraq again 3rd or 4th tour is a Blackhawk Air Ambulance pilot now with the PA Nat Guard, just the best of the best these folks really know their stuff. Just on a complete different level for sure.

All the folks who helped our family deliver our 2 kids, the NICU folks who are just super motivated and caring. Everyone knew their job and there was just no bickering or arguing just getting it done even as stuff was not perfect. I was in there with my wife it was super impressive to see them all in action.

My Dad goes to the VA in Ann Arbor always is well cared for and he helps out up there alot getting his buddies the care they earned.

It's far from perfect never will be.

But I truly wish your BIL has a great set of nurses, Dr's, and staff overall.

 

[BoeingDiesel]

Tractor, we wish your brother in law the very best and a full recovery. It's amazing how the human body can knit itself back together...don't give up hope.

 

[Tractorat]

My bil got home on friday from Texas where he had his brain surgery. He drove their rv the whole way. (my sister wont drive it). Pretty tired, but is recovering OK. He said the doctors in seattle that he had been going to (and didnt diagnose his problem) wanted to just clean out his sinuses (they said he had allergies). His doctor in Texas told him that, had the done that, it would have killed him.

 

[Wiredawg]

I'm glad to hear he's doing well and hope he stays healthy.

 

[SSage]

The technology is great. My Father was saved by a cath lab, but the rest of the follow up treatments were severely lacking. The doctors around here for the most part are cold as ice, if you don't ask and ask and ask about every option they just do whatever is easiest and profitable for them. Our local Walmart pharmacist red flagged one drug combination that got past multiple doctors and nurses.

The three cardiologist we dealt with were good overall, the general surgeon was great and did the primary doctor's job a few times pointing out his lack of concern and competence. We ended up changing primarys three times because they just don't give a crap. These guys would spend 10 minutes a week with my Dad. The hospital administrators had to get involved twice. The last hospital assigned one of their staff doctors it was so bad. His wife ended up being the new primary for Mom.

Right before he died we finally had a decent primary doctor that pulled him off the dangerous medication combo, but even that one was slow to react. He weaned him off the mess over two weeks, then finally took him off all medication. In the end the medication's side effects killed my dad.