Competition PDR's Blower on 5.9

[Sled Puller]

Why Piers, whatever do you mean?

I don't care what you sell, I was under the impression it was posted to discuss.

If you want just back patters and cheerleaders to post to threads that involve you, please, put a subtitle on them asking such.



Forgive me for having an opinion that you deemed negative, I apologize for having a different opinion then the more ... "gleeful" . . bunch of posters ahead of me!! And I mean that in the nicest way possible.



If you keep winking at me, I'll be forced to slap you.

 

[sbentz]

Keep up the testing, Piers. The theory is sound, and may have application. I had thought of it, but glad you are trying it. Keep us all informed.



May be real good for us "thin air boys" up in Rockies.

 

[Piers]

Using common sense is a good start..... LOL

How is that comment a discussion?



Lord knows we wouldn't want a gleefull sleddy, you try very hard to hide the other lifestyle you lead Slap me Sleddy, I like it

 

[Sled Puller]

Ya took it out of context because it wasn't in metric!!



What does "LOL and " mean in Canadian? OR FRENCH?

 

[ThrottleJockey]

Uh, I'll buy one...



What is it? A Whipple screw? I'll plumb that bad boy into a Big Brother and have the best of both world's!



I'll bet EGTs wont have a chance to rise when ya squash 'em down with 8 psi at idle. Hardly any fuel being injected and thers an instant 25 psi to deal with it.

Towing a 15,000 pound fiver with EGTs at 850 degrees!

 

[patcarman]

piers,take it from a truck driver when i was younger i drove a 70 somthing freightliner with a 318 detroit,with the fuel cranked of coarse and the sound that thing made at 3000 rpm through the straits wa absolutly deafining but cool,but without the turbo-blower it would of never pulled anything,hard part was keepin oil in them,everytime i stopped it needed about a half gallon,and thats no joking,keep up the good work,thats how people stumble on to a good thing. .

 

[RacinDuallie]

#@$%!



Give the guy his props for goodness sakes!



I applaud the PDR Team for coming up with different ways for ALL OF US to yet again turn up the power of the Mighty Cummins Turbo Diesel. Piers take it all in stride there my man, all the innovators always have the critics to eventually deal with, be it good or bad critisism. Some people like to march to their own beat> others like to follow.



Now Nascar Mark, You kept this under wraps so well til you guys had a quiet day at the shop, then you unleash it to the forum. Hey thanks for not giving me a heads up..... And to think I kept quiet about the head abuse that was thrown Piers' way- I never got on the forum and told everyone about the head ya gave me too... ... . :-laf ! :-laf !!

Seriously If the blower is building 8 pounds @ idle then think of the huge turbos that would now be avalible to use in combination. Say goodbye to Lag, Oo. spool up should be incredible- think of the size of the injectors that would be NEEDED in order to run this beast! ! !

I tell you guys this if you ever need a test truck..... sighhhhhhh forget it you probally have heard it hundreds of times.

:-laf :-laf :-laf

 

[Forrest Nearing]

be REAL good for staging games at the tree!



Forrest

 

[RacinDuallie]

Not only that but what about the neck snapping 60 foot times?

 

[Forrest Nearing]

well, once a turbo truck is spooled up, it'll cut good 60's...



but big turbo vehicles are always tricky to stage... that's why you don't see 1500hp pulling setups in drag trucks... they might be able to make some exhibition runs, but they take 10 minutes to spool up! LOL!



burndowns are dirty pool, but they're also part of racing.



instant boost is nifty. I'll stick w/ twins, but hot rodding is all about doing it different.



Forrest

 

[mjoppie]

good job piers, i love to see you always breaking new ground. thats what keeps you guys on top of your game man i need to move closer to you guys so you can have a new test mule



hhhmmmmm, wonder what turbos could be matched to that? Oo.



no sense in following now, keep the recearch in overdrive





matt

 

[RacinDuallie]

well, once a turbo truck is spooled up, it'll cut good 60's...



but big turbo vehicles are always tricky to stage... that's why you don't see 1500hp pulling setups in drag trucks... they might be able to make some exhibition runs, but they take 10 minutes to spool up! LOL!



burndowns are dirty pool, but they're also part of racing.



instant boost is nifty. I'll stick w/ twins, but hot rodding is all about doing it different.



Forrest

I believe this is an attempt to eliminate any and all spool up problems associated with B I G turbos.

Then maybe we'll start seeing the 1500 h. p. trucks maybe even more could a 2000 H. P. truck be on the horizon?



Think- a Top Fuel Hemi puts out a tad over 8000 H. P.

:--)

We've got a ways to go... ... ... .

 

[jtisdale]

Oh man, does that ROCK!!!!!

Great job Piers!!! Now you just need to get it... !43*&" (dammit, I dropped a pom-pom )... ready for market. And, I have just the name for it... . From the shop of Piers Diesel Research we proudly present...



THE PDR SCREW DRIVER



Got anymore pictures you would like to share? How about a sound clip?

Keep up the good work! Oo.

 

[Rhondasway]

Thanks for the early birthday present. I'll be there next week for installation.

It will fit under my Air Bulldog hood, right?

 

[gtspowerstroke]

I've been thinking this would be pretty cool for awhile. Would defineatly help that initial lag. With a big turbo I would think there would be quite a bit of lag up to max boost but that initial 10-20psi that the blower bakes would be pretty much instant!

 

[COMP461]

using the new Pro Charge 3000 R the hp to drive it is about 75. this could achive about 45 psi boost on a 5. 9 . but the drive pressure would be less then 0 with a good set of tuned headers . I along with other working on a project for the last 6 months beleive that this will deffintly make more power then a 90 psi with 90 psi drive pressure

 

[JoshPeters]

using the new Pro Charge 3000 R the hp to drive it is about 75. this could achive about 45 psi boost on a 5. 9 . but the drive pressure would be less then 0 with a good set of tuned headers . I along with other working on a project for the last 6 months beleive that this will deffintly make more power then a 90 psi with 90 psi drive pressure

ok... and I have to ask... ..... what is your point? What are you discussing? I'm going to assume the "new Pro Charge 3000 R" is a turbo..... Your also discussing drive pressure at a 1:1 Ratio..... Piers is putting a Supercharger on a 5. 9 Cummins. It appaears he is installing a MASSIVE set of twins behind it. I do not know if one of those turbos is what you are talking about here or not... ... ...



I hope I'm not the only one lost here... ... .



Josh

 

[COMP461]

The PRO CHARGER 3000 R looks like a turbo, but is belt driven , so its would be a super charger . if you don't have a turbo , there is no back pressure to speak of and a tuned header would scavenge the exhaust . I was working on this as a substitute for turbos , granted it will not make the big boost numbers , but I believe that at some point you are just agitating the air and increasing pressure and head, there by reducing density. , but not getting any appreciable amount more of air in the motor. With no back pressure to fight , the ease at which the cylinder is filled with cool uncontaminated air would be greater. The diesel is no different from any other motor , the ability to get air is is the most important quest , and if you can find a way to get the same air in at a lower boost ,then this equals a greater power potential then the other way with hot air. Another benefit is that the cooler the air before the ignition the greater the separation between start and finish on you combustion expansion

 

[DieselTweaker]

Comp



that's cool to hear, ive thought about a centrifugal charger, a friend of mine had his hands on a Vortech Mondo not sure what trim could have been an XX but never did anything with it.



Hat's off to Piers great work

 

[SConklin]

This would finally bring the 6-speed trucks back to the table at the strip, since not building boost at staging has always been the death of the stick shift on the the high-horsepower drag trucks. (Unless you have a very early death wish for your clutch)