pics of the dtt twins what a joke

[moolie]

http://home.comcast.net/~moolie19/turbopics.html





there u have it workmanship at it's finest. Is this the quality you expect for 6K? What a pathetic mess. This is silly that people have actually had the ignorance to argue this fact. I mean look at this the oil in leaks, the oil out leaks, the housing leaks, there is a hole where they welded the 5 pieces of tubing together and they must have missed a spot and it blew right through the powder coat. So then i ask how can this be justified. It's junk installed very very sloppy, and after 5 weeks they won't even address it but they had no problem taking the 6K for months in advance. We didn't even get mandrel bent piping come on now who's bsin'g here. I can't believe this is what is happening here i thought we were dealing with good folks but as you can see this is far from good. I'll try to post a new underneath shot out in the sunlight tomorrow since that one is a bit blurry.



Not your finest work there is it bob.

 

[RacinDuallie]

Moolie,
O. k. so you paid 6g's for this- waited and then they finally installed these twins here for you-and you have a hole blown through the piping. Have you brought this truck back to them at all to correct this situation? If somethings not right-obviously there are several issues here- why didn't you bring this truck back- and tell them to correct it, after all you paid 6g's?

What exactly cost 6g's anyhow? What are these turbos that cost 6g's?

I would've parked my truck back in their lot A. S. A. P. for them to correct their problems that they created... ... .....

 

[moolie]

yeah man i emailed them when we first dyno'd and didn't add any hp. I told them i wanted my setup back the way it was if they couldn't make these work. Not only have they failed to address the leaks but they havne't even done one thing period. Now there were 3 sets installed and i'm not sure how bad the others are but none of the trucks added any power. I'm ****** that's for sure so i'm gonna do what i feel necessary. I gave the installer who's name is on the receipt and who i paid the money two seperate written requests stating that i wanted my cash or i wanted this product to work properly. This is ridiculous man 4 hp and 11 torque and now i'm being indicted by the senate under the oil for food program saying i was taking allocation kickbacks. LOL not exacly but yes they are aware of the issue and the emails from the installer were sent back to me in care of dtt. So they know and they are very aware. The welded piece is right where the powdercoat is coming apart. I think there are like 5 welds and if the other guys who put these on look at theirs closely they will see the same things. 6K and we can't even get mandrell bent, or anything that even keeps the oil from endangering the wildlife. Is this work worth 6K actually it was 6300 but that's with headstuds. I don't know why we needed it with the pathetic boost levels. 53 that's a shame. The guy who designed them said 62 all day long. None of us 3 have seen 60 that's for sure.

 

[moolie]

Moolie,

O. k. so you paid 6g's for this- waited and then they finally installed these twins here for you-and you have a hole blown through the piping. Have you brought this truck back to them at all to correct this situation? If somethings not right-obviously there are several issues here- why didn't you bring this truck back- and tell them to correct it, after all you paid 6g's?



What exactly cost 6g's anyhow? What are these turbos that cost 6g's?



I would've parked my truck back in their lot A. S. A. P. for them to correct their problems that they created... ... .....

the reason i didn't post for this long is because i was told that they would address it. In order not to stir or ruffle feathers i didn't post anything about them after we went to the dyno. It was supposed to be a great day after the dyno but when we added almost 0 hp and almost 0 torque i got angry and i began asking a lot of questions. like why can't we see any boost on any of the trucks? Why didn't hp or torque go up on any of the three trucks? I have gotten the runaround from day one. However picture's don't lie so you can see this is a total joke. I didn't wanna come on here and label their product junk. Then state that for 1700 you can get a sledpuller from ht turbo that will push just as much air and make just as much power for thousands less. However they failed to do anything for it so now we have the factual evidence coming forth.

 

[Cooker]

Wow.



As far as the mandrel bent pipes I think most everyone welds elbows together and I personally do not see a problem with this, obviously if welded properly.



What turbos are they using? Are they both WG'ed?

 

[moolie]

Wow.



As far as the mandrel bent pipes I think most everyone welds elbows together and I personally do not see a problem with this, obviously if welded properly.



What turbos are they using? Are they both WG'ed?

they don't wanna say. I tried to get a good pic of the hole it's small now but it's gonna get bigger. It's melting the top of the battery. I'll take some more pics in a minute. It's an external wastegate. This was when i got home on the garage floor last night now i'll go take one of the floor and u can see how much leakage there is. Right where the seam is that's where the hole is. I'm not sure but i think there were 5 seams or maybe 4 seams.

 

[lmills]

There should be about 4 seams in the cold pipe. It is next to impossible if not impossible to make a solid u bend with one piece. Especially do to the tight clearance of the 3rd gens with the battery box. The cold pipe on a 3rd gen has to be almost 1-1/2"s tighter than a 2nd gen

 

[moolie]

yeah i believe you are right I was not sure how that was to be but i do know the welds are supposed to be done all the way around with no weak spots. This is where the new leak came from. I am going to go dyno i believe and i'm quite sure the results will be lower then when i had my single. If everyone welds them then that's how it'll be but does this mean i am going to have more holes popping up in the future?

 

[lmills]

you shouldn't have any welds pop if the weld penetrated deep enough. Also twins show the largest increases on load style dyno's. Inertia dynos just don't do as well of a job spoolin the chargers. Piers has a load dyno.

 

[RacinDuallie]

What was the cfm rating from your old turbo-you took off?

Now what cfm rating did they tell you these twins would push? They had to tell you that- why else would you go for their twins without that info? Hopefully they did say?

It seems like there is several areas that have to be addressed- was the set-up ever gauged properly for psi ?

Fixing the hole in the piping would be a start- no giant difference but a start.

Check the connections to the intercooler? Seems stupid-I know- but another place to look.

Can you install fitting and pressure test yourself- intercooler has no splits anywhere, hairline cracks ect. the piping sleeves too?

Determine what is causing the inlet-outlet oil leaks. That shouldn't be too hard to look into- I mean it is YOUR driveway that it's leaking on, plus it's an eyesore- wife starts *****ing.

You can flip out about it but really what is it doing? Maybe the few that read into this might get turned away- but really? In the meantime it seems like a simple enough thing to just go through it and look for something that might have been missed.

Is the wastegate rod getting bound up on something? Preventing full movement?

I would start adding some psi gauges before and after and one in the intake- after intercooler- and do some tuning after the leaks get fixed... ... ... .

 

[moolie]

well it's got a small crack in the housing which we are still waiting on the replacement so there's nothing for me to do there. I'll fix the hole tomorrow in the tubing however it's gonna have an ugly spot after the grinder. I know a lot of folks can't believe this is happening with a dtt product. I just wanted to make sure that nobody else has to go through this. They spoke of a new regulator no word on that yet and possibly a spring change in the wastegate and i'll get that addressed after i get the leak fixed and the gauge for the lower turbo installed. Along with the fuel pressure gauge so this will be interesting that's for sure. I may seem like i'm flipping out and I don't know if i'm still being to soft with the guys in addressing it. It's been building up for 5 weeks now. lol Tomorrow we'll know something more

 

[evldsl]

They should have taken care of your problem's Moolie, if you ask me they are just out to make a buck. They should have fixed or replaced your bad parts and when they installed the kit it should have been tuned not just dropped off. This show's what type of work they put out and the type of business they have. I won't purchase a thing from them and I can bet anyone who has read this board won't either, even the one's who knocked you on this board won't purchase from them and that say's a lot.

 

[moolie]

They should have taken care of your problem's Moolie, if you ask me they are just out to make a buck. They should have fixed or replaced your bad parts and when they installed the kit it should have been tuned not just dropped off. This show's what type of work they put out and the type of business they have. I won't purchase a thing from them and I can bet anyone who has read this board won't either, even the one's who knocked you on this board won't purchase from them and that say's a lot.

right on man i appreciate the honesty, and i just wanted to state that I did wait before coming here and posting these results and this was not what i was wishing for but unfortunately it's the only way to get any results. It's funny you say the one's who knock me on the board won't purchase them either, I have had some offers but for far less then i paid of course. They don't wanna pay full price that's for sure. I don't think my approach to this is in any way unrealistic. If the company couldn't fix it or make it work then they had the refund option which wasn't applied. Not only that how can i be expected to fix this issue when the installer can't fix it. Now they are coming out and saying that they aren't even their turbo's, that's cop out and it's a tactic used to blame another party involved rather then address the issue.

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

I'm closing this thread (as well as the other one) down. Moolie has had his say and dtt has responded with their side. If any of the other vendors involved in this transaction wish to post their story get ahold of me and I will add it to this thread. At this point further discussion will be going down the bashing road and we don't need that on here.