Guns, Bows, Shooting Sports, and Hunting pistol

[FOXY005]

And don't forget to pack a change of fresh skivvies, cause no matter what heat your packing your probably gonna need em.

 

[BIGNASTY]

LOL, Big, I'd be happy with a 336 Marlin in 45/70!

Might want to check that again, Im out of WAY out of town at the moment but I belive the 336 is 30/30

you would have to get one of the BIG BORE Marlins to feed it the 45/70 loads. The one I feel best with ( UNTIL I SHOOT A FEW TIMES) Is below. ITS A HEART STOPPER

http://marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/bigbore/1895SBL.asp

 

[moparguy]

Yep, my bad. *1895 is the proper series. Never owned one but I've shot a few 336's in 30-30 and 35 Rem over the years and they always shot better than it looked like they had a right to! *100 yd groups were better than the usual bolt guns of the day.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Never understood the ideology behind re-introducing something that could possibly kill. The idiots in this state are pushing hard to re-introduce wolves, even though mountain lions have been hunted in this state for decades. The deer population here has been pummeled because of it.

I would suggest SOMEONE really read the regulations.!!! but then again if ????? I was going to say something ugly here but what difference would it make Californians are pretty much a breed ALL THEIR OWN THANK GOD FOR THAT!!

Why can't mountain lions be hunted in California?

With the passage of Proposition 117 in 1990, mountain lions became a "specially protected species," making mountain lion hunting illegal in California. This status and other statutes prohibit the California Department of Fish and Wildlife from recommending a hunting season for lions, and it is illegal to take, injure, possess, transport, import, or sell any mountain lion or part of a mountain lion. Mountain lions may be killed only 1) if a depredation permit is issued to take a specific lion killing livestock or pets; 2) to preserve public safety; or 3) to protect listed bighorn sheep.

:-laf

 

[Deleted member 995608]

Deleted because I have the utmost respect for TDR, and want to see TDR push forward and continue to be successful.

 

[Dl5treez]

Guys......back it down a gear or two. I leave a VERY long leash 'round here, please don't force me to yank on it. Keep the peace or it will be forced upon us all by my boss(es). lol

Now back to regular programming.

There were grizzly bears for many moons over in the NE corner of this state. Pend Oreille, et al. Moose, too.

Populations have dropped a bit, for whatever reason. Now some in WDFW think it's a novel idea to bring them back in. Will it happen? Who knows but knowing this state probably.

As far as them being in the areas outside of the NE corner, or possibly far north Cascades, doubtful. A pipe dream by some people in WDFW who need better things to do, but lack the skills to do them. Keep them working on the grizzly bears maybe they won't screw up what's left of the rest of the critters.

 

[Dl5treez]

For a brown bear protection handgun, I carry a Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan. Or a Mossberg 590 shorty.

Truthfully the 30-06 is sufficient for a brown bear if you're good with it.

But it's a LOT of opinion and no fluff. I've never had to fend one off and the people I know of who managed to got pretty messed up in the process.

 

[Dasmoeturhead]

For a brown bear protection handgun, I carry a Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan. Or a Mossberg 590 shorty.

Truthfully the 30-06 is sufficient for a brown bear if you're good with it.

But it's a LOT of opinion and no fluff. I've never had to fend one off and the people I know of who managed to got pretty messed up in the process.

Your right about the 30.06. I was talking with a hunting guide up in Kodiak AK, and he likes the 30.06 with a 220 grain round nose soft point for grizzly protection. He said this round will break the shoulder bones and stop the bear from charging you. He said you have to break them down, and the 1 shot kill is a myth (although it has been done). He said he doesn't carry the ought 6 when he guides because the people he's guiding want to know that the guide carries a rifle bigger than what their carrying.
I don't live in bear country, so I really don't even have a big bore pistol anymore. For any predator with 4 legs or 2 I trust in my Colt 1911 .45 acp. I definitely know this is not the best or probably not even in the top 10 for grizzly, but the military trained me to shoot this fine pistol, and I'm good with it, and I would not hesitate to use it if I was confronted with a Grizzly. I hope that will never happen. It definitely won't here in Tennessee. >

 

[wyosteve]

These threads always make me laugh. Most of the responses are from those who don't live in grizzly country, probably have never even seen a grizzly and have no idea how fast they can be as well as under what circumstances they might come at you. But go ahead and offer opinions since it's free! Flame suit on!!

 

[Deleted member 995608]

These threads always make me laugh. Most of the responses are from those who don't live in grizzly country, probably have never even seen a grizzly and have no idea how fast they can be as well as under what circumstances they might come at you. But go ahead and offer opinions since it's free! Flame suit on!!

Ya, Big is one of those guys.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Ya, Big is one of those guys.

I'll have you know that I've seen one at the zoo !!!!!

But I can & did provide info that in Commiefornia YOU CAN'T HUNT M lions but i guess since you wear a Halloween fireman costume that your SPECIAL

Decades must be a different time span in LALA LAND?

HAHAHA SORRY I'D LIKE TO STAY AND CHAT BUT I'VE GOT SOMETHING TO DO

BYE!!

 

[Tractorat]

Thanks for the replies. I have seen a couple of griz bears in my life time and they are huge. The first was in yellowstone not more than 50 or 60 feet from my truck (I stayed in the truck) He was just sitting there on his butt in a meadow watching a butterfly. When the butterfly flew away, he just chased after it. Almost like in a cartoon. The second was in alaska (once again from my truck). Not quite as close, but much more menacing looking. From the responses, my original thought is confirmed. That is, is the gun there to shoot at the bear ? Or to shoot yourself before he gets you ?

I do sometimes hunt in northeast wash which is where they are trying to bring in the bear population. But I probably wont waste the money on a pistol that I would never use for anything else, and would most likely prove to be ineffective if I ever really needed it for that purpose. I turned 68 yr old not long ago, so the reality is that I probably will have stopped going out by the time they do bring in a healthy population.

 

[Deleted member 995608]

BIg, you didn't point anything out. There's a typo. "Have" should have been "Haven't". That's pretty obvious if you would have read the entire sentence.

Big..... add me to your ignore list, such as I have done for you. I've ignored you for months, yet you continue to insult me, my business, and just about everything else. I'm really tired of your harassment, so I'm am respectfully asking you and all of your online personalities to please, leave me alone.

 

[BIGNASTY]

OH NO

I'm sure that you didn't mean that!!!

I do ignore most of the ideological horse XXXX that's thrown out, but out and out BS is just something that I CANT LET SLIDE!!

That being said any and all things coming from a Dumocrap, Hillary loving, Moonbeam want to be Californian is FAIR GAME even if its NOT your post.

I received an IM from another Member and made the comment about the slip up " Have and Haven't" so I did figure it out but how many times have I made a similar error and had it ran up my XXX with golf spikes on ????


Sorry that's just the way Im built RIGHT OR WRONG!!

Tha Tha Kiss Kiss BIG

 

[WalterJ]

Ditto on the .454 Casull, w/5.5" bbl.; the Taurus Raging Bull is affordable. Shoot a lot of 45LC, practicing your draw & 3 fast shots @ 20yds. If you eventually can't hit an 8.5x11 paper, then talk to a "prepper" for a grenade! Maybe a S&W .460 revolver is available, but it's very large.

No "hollow points", they just disintegrate, check Hornady site for special rounds. Sounds like fun shopping.

P.S. Wyoming game wardens were insisting on being issued large caliber revolvers for Mtn. Lion & bear protection. The dept. experimented with testing shooting skills under a typical attack. NO ONE placed a fatal shot on a charging PAPER bear! No one. After practice, the result was IDENTICAL!! They were ordered to carry 2 - 1# cans of bear spray.

That's when my son out there asked for my advice re: carrying a revolver, I said .454 something, then he related this story a month later. He bought 2 #'s of spray & holsters. Best of luck out there.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Ditto on the .454 Casull, w/5.5" bbl.; the Taurus Raging Bull is affordable. Shoot a lot of 45LC, practicing your draw & 3 fast shots @ 20yds. If you eventually can't hit an 8.5x11 paper, then talk to a "prepper" for a grenade! Maybe a S&W .460 revolver is available, but it's very large.

No "hollow points", they just disintegrate, check Hornady site for special rounds. Sounds like fun shopping.

P.S. Wyoming game wardens were insisting on being issued large caliber revolvers for Mtn. Lion & bear protection. The dept. experimented with testing shooting skills under a typical attack. NO ONE placed a fatal shot on a charging PAPER bear! No one. After practice, the result was IDENTICAL!! They were ordered to carry 2 - 1# cans of bear spray.

That's when my son out there asked for my advice re: carrying a revolver, I said .454 something, then he related this story a month later. He bought 2 #'s of spray & holsters. Best of luck out there.

I agree & pack LARGE BORE GUNS!!

Our forest rangers have said that people who used bear spray are easy to identify the bear skat has a pepper spray smell to ot.

 

[moparguy]

WalterJ said; "Maybe a S&W .460 revolver is available, but it's very large."

They can be very large, mine is. It's actually not bad to shoot from a recoil standpoint. Loud as hell but recoil is more a vertical thing and not a violent slam. Not nearly as punishing as 300 grain Barns in FULL house 44 Rem loads thru the Redhawk.

Smith has been offering the 460 with 3" and 5" barrels for a few years. See the one I ogled right after Christmas in the used gun case at a local Gander Mountain store. The good news is it's chambered to accept not only .460 S&W but for light loads you can run .454 Casull, and .45 Long Colts through it.

 

[jhenderson]

The bad news is it's in the case because between ammo cost and recoil the original owner didn't want it any more.

 

[moparguy]

Yep, ammo cost and recoil can both be high. That said, you don't have to shoot full house rounds if that's not your cup of tea. 454 Casulls are very easy on the shooter in my 460. Never tried any 45 Long Colts, my suspicion is they'd be a notch above 22 mgs. Obviously the 460 is on bottom with 3x8 Leopold with the very seasoned 44 Redhawk (bought in 86) top.

 

[CBari]

Ok, just an observation from a southern reading all of this, but here is how I see it. Odds of running in to a grizzly while hunting out west in the mountains, pretty slim, odds of surviving attack from grizzly no matter what size firearm you are carrying pretty slim also. So the way I see to increase my odd of survival and to help the gene pool is to always take a a tree hugger with you to the back country show them how you are protecting the environment, and if for some reason you have an encounter pull out that 22 Deringer and shoot the tree hugger in the knee. This way you have giving them a sporting chance and also changing their view on gun control. In all honesty though when it is your time it is your time, just make sure you are right with your maker.